Understanding Vector Subspaces and Direct Sums

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The discussion revolves around understanding vector subspaces and direct sums in the context of linear algebra. The original poster seeks clarification on showing that the intersection of two vector subspaces, U and W, is also a vector subspace of V, and the definition of the direct sum of U and W.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the criteria for a subset to be a subspace, focusing on closure under addition and scalar multiplication. There are questions about the definitions and the notation used, particularly regarding the vectors involved in the intersection.

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The conversation has evolved with some participants providing guidance on how to demonstrate the properties of the intersection. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the notation and the specific vectors used in the discussion, indicating that multiple interpretations are being explored.

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Participants express uncertainty about the notation of vectors and their origins, which may affect their understanding of the problem. There is also mention of the need to establish that the subset is non-empty, typically by showing the presence of the zero vector.

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probably not but if not i don't know where to start...
let U and W be vector subspaces of V. Show that UnW is a vector subspace of V
define the subspace U+W. What does it mean to say that V is a direct sum, UdirectsumW of U and W

understand the direct sum part but surely i need values of U and W to show UnW is a vector space of V?
 
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The same way you show that any subset of a vector space is a subspace: show that it is closed under addition of vectors and scalar multiplication.

If u and v are vectors in UnW then, by definition of "intersection" they are in both U and W. Since u and v are both in U, and U is a subspace of V, u+ v is in U ...

Can you finish that?
 
ye chears that helps a lot, could you take a look at my other post please? thanks
 
hang on no i havn't read this properly at all, I'm still as stuck as i first was where has little v and u came from? if anything I'm more confused
 
think I'm getting my head arround it now u and v elements of UnW so that u+v are elements of U and u+v are elements of W so because of this u+v are elements of UnW
the only thing I'm not getting is where this u and v are coming from? It would make more sense to me if it was u and w not u and v. and where is the w surely this is an element of UnW also?

i do however understand rules 1 and 3 multiplying by a scalar and zero vector just the addition that's baffeling me
 
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You can call vectors anything you like! I wanted to avoid "u" and "w" specifically because someone might think that "u" must be in U and "w" must be in W.

Perhaps it would be better to say "if x and y are members of UnW then they are both members of U and both members of W. Since U is a subspace, it is closed under addition: x+ y is in U. Since W is a subspace, it is closed under addition: x+ y is in W. Since x+ y is in both U and W, it is UnW.

Now, you need to show that if x is in UnW, so is ax for a any number.

Oh, and you need to prove the subset is non-empty- most often that's done by showing that the 0 vector is in the set.
 
thanks got it now
 

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