Understanding Voltage and Capacitance: How Can They Be Measured?

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The discussion revolves around the measurement of voltage and capacitance, particularly in the context of capacitors. Participants explore the definitions and relationships between charge, voltage, and capacitance, as well as methods for measuring these quantities in different capacitor configurations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to measure the voltage in the context of capacitance and expresses confusion about the relationship between charge (Q), voltage (V), and capacitance (C).
  • Another participant explains that the voltage of a capacitor is proportional to the charge and inversely proportional to capacitance, suggesting the use of standard measuring devices like oscilloscopes and digital voltmeters for measurement.
  • A participant clarifies that the equation Q=C.V is the definition of capacitance, indicating that capacitance is defined as C = Q/V when a potential difference V exists between the capacitor's plates.
  • There is a query about measuring the capacitance of different shapes of capacitors, such as spheres or plates, and whether experimental methods are necessary.
  • One participant suggests that capacitance can be calculated using Gauss's Law, emphasizing that it depends on the design of the capacitor, including factors like size, shape, and dielectric material.
  • Another participant elaborates on the interpretation of capacitance for a single conductor, providing a specific formula for the capacitance of a sphere and discussing the relationship between charge and potential in this context.
  • A later reply indicates that the explanation was understood by the original poster.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the definitions and relationships of voltage, charge, and capacitance. There is no clear consensus on the best methods for measuring capacitance in different configurations, and multiple interpretations of capacitance exist.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of voltage and capacitance that may not be universally agreed upon. The interpretations of capacitance in different geometries, such as spheres versus plate capacitors, are not resolved and depend on specific conditions and assumptions.

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Hi everybody, I'm new at the forum. I've started learning physics on my school last year.

I've a question.

How can we measure the voltage stated on the definition of capacitance? Just V=Q/C ?

Or how to measure the capacitance? What's about voltage?

I didn't know that Q=C.V. What is that? The definition of capacitance, voltage or electric charge?

Generally I didn't understand that. Can you help me please?

I'm sorry for my bad English.
 
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fgp40 said:
Hi everybody, I'm new at the forum. I've started learning physics on my school last year.

I've a question.

How can we measure the voltage stated on the definition of capacitance? Just V=Q/C ?

Or how to measure the capacitance? What's about voltage?

I didn't know that Q=C.V. What is that? The definition of capacitance, voltage or electric charge?

Generally I didn't understand that. Can you help me please?

I'm sorry for my bad English.

Welcome to the PF.

The voltage V of a capacitor is directly proportional to the charge stored on it (Q), and inversely proportional to the capacitance C. Given some capacitance value, if you double the charge on the capacitor, you double the voltage of the capacitor.

You measure the voltage of the capacitor with standard measuring devices, like oscilloscopes and digital voltmeters (DVMs).
 
fgp40 said:
I didn't know that Q=C.V. What is that? The definition of capacitance, voltage or electric charge?

This is the definition of capacitance. If a capacitor has a potential difference V between its two "plates" when they carry charges +Q and -Q, then its capacitance is C = Q/V.
 
Thank you for answer. And if the capacitor is a sphere or just a plate? How to know their capacitance? With experiments?
 
Given the design of the capacitor and the dielectric, one can calculate the capacitance using Gauss Law with some extra assumptions. Its better to think that capacitance depends on the design of the capacitor (e.g size and shape of plates and distance between them and dielectric constant of the dielectric material) and just view the relationship C=Q/V as an additional relationship that connects those 3 physical quantities of charge in plates, voltage between plates and capacitance.
 
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fgp40 said:
And if the capacitor is a sphere or just a plate? How to know their capacitance? With experiments?
Perhaps the place to start is understanding what the capacitance of a single conductor means, in other words how you should interpret Q/V, the defining equation. Q is simply the charge on the conductor and V is the potential of the conductor with respect to infinity. In the case of a sphere, and no doubt for certain other shapes, this potential has a well defined value; for a sphere of radius a it is V = \frac{Q}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 a}. So the capacitance of the sphere is C = \frac{Q}{V} = 4 \pi \epsilon_0 a.

This interpretation may seem very unlike that for a two plate capacitor. But in fact, it's not so different… The electric field lines from our single, 'isolated conductor' will, in practice, end on negative charges induced on very distant objects. The total negative charge induced is, as Faraday showed, equal in magnitude to the positive charge on the 'single, isolated conductor'. So we can, if we wish, regard such a conductor, plus the distant surroundings, as a 'pair of plates' with equal and opposite charges, and a p.d. between them. Whether this helps is a matter of taste.
 
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OK. Thanks I understood.
 

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