Uniform Convergence of ##\{f_n\}## on ##[0,a]##

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The problem involves showing the uniform convergence of the sequence of functions ##\{f_n\} = \{x^n\}## on the interval ##[0,a]## for any ##a\in(0,1)##, while demonstrating that this convergence does not hold on the interval ##[0,1]##.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the convergence of the sequence of functions and the conditions under which uniform convergence is established. Questions arise regarding the necessity of demonstrating the lack of uniform convergence on ##[0,1]## and the implications of the convergence behavior at the endpoint ##x=1##.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the reasoning behind the uniform convergence on ##[0,a]## and the failure of this property on ##[0,1]##. There is an ongoing inquiry into the definition of uniform convergence and its application to the specific case of the sequence of functions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of examining the behavior of the functions at the endpoints of the intervals and the implications of the convergence to different limits based on the choice of interval.

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Homework Statement


Show that the sequence of functions ##x,x^2, ... ## converges uniformly on ##[0,a]## for any ##a\in(0,1)##, but not on ##[0,1]##.2. The attempt at a solution

Is this correct? Should I add more detail? Thanks for your help!

Let ##\{f_n\} = \{x^n\}##, and suppose ##f^n \to f##. We must show that for ##\epsilon>0##, there exists an ##N## such that ##d(f,f^n)<\epsilon## whenever ##n>N## for all ##x.##

For ##a\in (0,1)##, it is clear to see that ##x^n\to 0## as ##n## approaches infinity. We must then show ##|x^n|<\epsilon## whenever ##n## is greater than some ##N##.

On ##[0,a]##, ##x^n## attains its max at ##x=a## so ##x^n<a^n##. Then note that ##a^n## decreases with increasing ##n##, so we choose ##N## such that ##a^N<\epsilon##.

##\{f_n\}## does not converge uniformly on ##[0,1]## because at ##x=1##, ##f^n = (1)^n =1\ne 0## for all ##n##.
 
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Lee33 said:

Homework Statement


Show that the sequence of functions ##x,x^2, ... ## converges uniformly on ##[0,a]## for any ##a\in(0,1)##, but not on ##[0,1]##.2. The attempt at a solution

Is this correct? Should I add more detail? Thanks for your help!

Let ##\{f_n\} = \{x^n\}##, and suppose ##f^n \to f##. We must show that for ##\epsilon>0##, there exists an ##N## such that ##d(f,f^n)<\epsilon## whenever ##n>N## for all ##x.##

For ##a\in (0,1)##, it is clear to see that ##x^n\to 0## as ##n## approaches infinity. We must then show ##|x^n|<\epsilon## whenever ##n## is greater than some ##N##.

On ##[0,a]##, ##x^n## attains its max at ##x=a## so ##x^n<a^n##. Then note that ##a^n## decreases with increasing ##n##, so we choose ##N## such that ##a^N<\epsilon##.

##\{f_n\}## does not converge uniformly on ##[0,1]## because at ##x=1##, ##f^n = (1)^n =1\ne 0## for all ##n##.

You need more for the case ##x\in [0,1]##. You haven't shown that the convergence of ##x^n## to the function$$
f(x) = \left\{\begin{array}{rl}
0,& 0\le x<1\\
1, & x=1
\end{array}\right.$$is not uniform. After all, that is the function to which it converges for each ##x##. Why isn't the convergence uniform?
 
LCKurtz - Can you elaborate?

For ##[0,1]##, ##\{f_n\}## does not converge uniformly on ##[0,1]## because at ##x=1##, ##f^n = (1)^n =1\ne 0## for all ##n##.
 
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Lee33 said:
LCKurtz - Can you elaborate?

For ##[0,1]##, ##\{f_n\}## does not converge uniformly on ##[0,1]## because at ##x=1##, ##f^n = (1)^n =1\ne 0## for all ##n##.

You know the definition of uniform convergence. Given ##\epsilon > 0## you can find ##N## such that if ##n>N##, ##\|f_n-f\| < \epsilon##. To show this is false you need to find an ##\epsilon## for which you can't find an ##N## that works. You already know the problem is near ##x=1##. Think about that.
 
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Okay, thanks.
 
Lee33 said:
Okay, thanks.

Please note I edited my post. It's late and the first one needed fixing.
 
Its okay, thanks for the help!
 

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