Unique Solution for Initial-Value Problem with Lipschitz Condition Test

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The discussion revolves around an initial-value problem defined by the differential equation y' = e^(t-y) for the interval 0 <= t <= 1, with the initial condition y(0) = 1. Participants are exploring the conditions under which this problem has a unique solution, particularly focusing on the Lipschitz condition.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Lipschitz condition to the function F(t,y) = e^(t-y) and question whether it needs to be satisfied only at the initial condition y=1 or over a broader domain. There are attempts to analyze the uniqueness theorem and its implications for the problem.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants examining different interpretations of the Lipschitz condition and its relevance to the uniqueness of the solution. Some guidance has been offered regarding the local nature of the existence-uniqueness theorem, but no consensus has been reached on the implications for the problem at hand.

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There is a noted complexity regarding the Lipschitz condition, with participants expressing uncertainty about its application across the entire domain versus at the initial condition. The discussion also highlights potential limitations in satisfying the Lipschitz condition based on graphical analysis.

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Hello, I have trouble showing that the following initial-value problem has a unique solution. I also need to find this unique solution.

y' = e^(t-y), where 0 <= t <= 1, and y(0) = 1.

How can I test the Lipschitz condition on this?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Well what have you done?

[tex]\frac{dy}{dt} = e^{t} e^{-y}[/tex]
 
What does your theorem on uniqueness say? My book has one where y' = F(y) for some function F of y. Here, your function is F(y,t) = et-y, it's a function of 2 variables. So maybe you have to show that for each t in [0,1], the function Ft(y) = et-y is Lipschitz as a function of y. Also, I think you only need to satisfy the Lipschitz condition for y=1, since that's the initial condition you're solving for. Again, just look at the precise statement of the theorem that I would assume is given to you.
 
Yes, that's what I'm trying to show. For each pair of points (t,y1) and (t,y2) where t is in [0,1], we have |F(t,y1) - F(t,y2)| <= L |y1 - y2| where L is a Lipschitz constant for F. And y1 and y2 can be anything between positive and negative infinity. But it seems that it doesn't satisfy the Lipschitz condition if you write it out -- |F(t,y1) - F(t,y2)| isn't bounded. I'm not sure what other ways there are to show uniqueness.

I found the IVP's solution using separable variables. I got y(t) = ln[(e^t) + e - 1].
 
Oh sorry, did you say that it only needs to satisfy the Lipschitz condition for y=1? How do you know that?

My theorem for uniqueness says that f needs to satisfy a Lipschitz condition on D, where D is the convex set {(t,y)}, where 0 <= t <= 1 and -infinity < y < +infinity.

Thanks.
 
Because the existence-uniqueness theorem for ODEs is a local result. It needs to be Lipschitz near 1 for there to be a unique solution with initial value 1. There just needs to be a unique trajectory going through 1, not a unique trajectory everywhere. Of course, if its not Lipschitz everywhere, then you may not have a unique solution everywhere, but that's not really important.

Actually, looking at the following graph (black = |1-e1-y|, green = |1-y|), even if you steepen the green graph by increasing L, it will never dominate the black curve, so I don't think it is Lipschitz)
 

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Ok I see. Thanks.
 

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