Uniqueness of magnetic vector potential

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the uniqueness of the magnetic vector potential in relation to the magnetic field. Participants explore whether the magnetic vector potential can be considered unique given that the magnetic field has a unique solution.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims to have proven that the magnetic field is uniquely determined and questions if this implies the uniqueness of the magnetic vector potential.
  • Another participant argues that for any magnetic field, there are infinitely many equivalent magnetic vector potentials related by a scalar field, indicating that the magnetic vector potential is not uniquely determined.
  • A subsequent reply reiterates that the infinite number of equivalent vector potentials means they all yield the same magnetic field, thus questioning if the magnetic field is also not uniquely determined.
  • Participants discuss the mathematical relationship that shows the equivalence of vector potentials, emphasizing that the curl of the gradient of any scalar field is zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the magnetic vector potential is not uniquely determined due to the existence of infinitely many equivalent forms. However, there is ongoing uncertainty regarding the implications of this for the uniqueness of the magnetic field itself.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on the choice of scalar fields in determining the magnetic vector potential and the implications for the uniqueness of the magnetic field. Unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions and conditions under which these potentials are considered may affect the conclusions drawn.

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I able to prove magnetic field is uniquely determined but I am confused how to prove that magnetic vector potential is also unique.

Can I say that magnetic vector potential is uniquely determined since magnetic field has unique solution?

Thanks.
 
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For any magnetic field ## \vec B ##, there are an infinite number of equivalent magnetic vector potentials##\vec A##(##\vec B=\vec \nabla\times\vec A ##), related by ## \vec {A'}=\vec A+\vec \nabla \phi ## for some scalar field ## \phi ##. So the magnetic vector potential of a magnetic field is not uniquely determined.
 
Shyan said:
For any magnetic field ## \vec B ##, there are an infinite number of equivalent magnetic vector potentials##\vec A##(##\vec B=\vec \nabla\times\vec A ##), related by ## \vec {A'}=\vec A+\vec \nabla \phi ## for some scalar field ## \phi ##. So the magnetic vector potential of a magnetic field is not uniquely determined.

thank you very much for the reply!
As what you have explained, magnetic vector potential is not uniquely determined since there are an infinite number of equivalent vector potential A, for magnetic field B. But does it mean B also not uniquely determined since we could choose any scalar field of A?
 
fricke said:
thank you very much for the reply!
As what you have explained, magnetic vector potential is not uniquely determined since there are an infinite number of equivalent vector potential A, for magnetic field B. But does it mean B also not uniquely determined since we could choose any scalar field of A?
As I said, all those infinite number of vector potentials are equivalent, which means they all give the same magnetic field. That's because ## \vec \nabla \times \vec \nabla \phi=0 ## for any scalar field ## \phi ##. So ## \vec{A'}=\vec A+\vec\nabla \phi \Rightarrow \vec\nabla\times\vec {A'}=\vec\nabla\times\vec A ##.
 
Shyan said:
As I said, all those infinite number of vector potentials are equivalent, which means they all give the same magnetic field. That's because ## \vec \nabla \times \vec \nabla \phi=0 ## for any scalar field ## \phi ##. So ## \vec{A'}=\vec A+\vec\nabla \phi \Rightarrow \vec\nabla\times\vec {A'}=\vec\nabla\times\vec A ##.

thank you very much! I understand now! thank you.
 

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