Unit Basis Components of a Vector in Tensorial Expressions?

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The discussion focuses on the divergence formula expressed in terms of vector components and unit basis in tensorial expressions. The original formula presented by the author, relating the components of the vector A, is deemed confusing and incorrect, as it should be expressed as A^{*j} = \sqrt{g_{jj}} A^{j}. The participants clarify that the scale factors, h_i = \sqrt{g_{ii}}, are essential for computing divergences in various coordinate systems, particularly spherical and cylindrical coordinates. The divergence formula is reformulated to accommodate these scale factors, emphasizing the need for clarity in expressing vector components. The conversation highlights the importance of accurate notation in tensor calculus for effective application in different coordinate systems.
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Divergence formula

$$\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{A}= \frac{1}{\sqrt{G}} \frac{\partial}{\partial q^{j}} (A^{j} \sqrt{G})$$

If we express it in terms of the components of ##\vec{A}## in unit basis using

$$A^{*j} = \sqrt{g^{jj}} A^{j}$$

, we get $$\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{A}= \frac{1}{\sqrt{G}} \frac{\partial}{\partial q^{j}} (A^{*j} \sqrt{g^{jj} G})$$

However, did the author intend
$$A^{j} = \sqrt{g^{jj}} A^{*j}$$

(quick check: with this one can directly substitute to get the correct divergence formula)? Because
$$\vec{A} = A^{j} \vec{e}_j = A^{*j} \hat{e}_j = A^{*j} \frac{1}{\sqrt{g_{jj}}} \sqrt{g_{jj}} \hat{e}_j = A^{*j} \sqrt{g^{jj}} \, \vec{e}_j$$

, since $$\vec{e}^{i} \cdot \vec{e}_{i} = \hat{e}^{i} \cdot \hat{e}_{i} \sqrt{g^{ii}g_{ii}} = \sqrt{g^{ii}g_{ii}} = 1$$
 
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Let ##q^i## be orthogonal co-ordinates and let the scale factors in the holonomic basis be ##h_i \equiv \sqrt{\boldsymbol{e}_i \cdot \boldsymbol{e}_i} = \sqrt{g_{ii}}## (no sum). Then ##\boldsymbol{e}_i = h_i \hat{\boldsymbol{e}}_i## (no sum) and
\begin{align*}
\boldsymbol{A} = \sum_i A^i \boldsymbol{e}_i = \sum_i A^i h_i \hat{\boldsymbol{e}}_i \equiv \sum_i {A^*}^i \hat{\boldsymbol{e}}_i
\end{align*}from which one identifies the physical components in the normalised basis as ##{A^*}^i = h_i A^i## (no sum), which is as you wrote. The divergence formula:\begin{align*}
\nabla \cdot \boldsymbol{A} = \sum_i \nabla_i A^i &= \sum_i \frac{1}{\sqrt{|g|}} \frac{\partial}{\partial q^{i}} \left(A^{i} \sqrt{|g|} \right) \\
&= \sum_i \frac{1}{\sqrt{|g|}} \frac{\partial}{\partial q^{i}} \left( \frac{1}{h_i} {A^*}^i \sqrt{|g|} \right)
\end{align*}And of course ##h_i = \sqrt{g_{ii}} = 1/\sqrt{g^{ii}}## (no sum).
 
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##{A^*}^i = h_i A^i = \sqrt{g_{ii}} A^{i}## So would you agree that the formula the author gave, ##A^{*j} = \sqrt{g^{jj}} A^{j} ## is... at best... confusing?
 
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yucheng said:
So would you agree that the formula the author gave, ##A^{*j} = \sqrt{g^{jj}} A^{j} ## is... at best... confusing?
I agree with you that it is wrong! It should, of course, be ##A^{*j} = \sqrt{g_{jj}} A^{j} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{g^{jj}}} A^j## (no sum).
 
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ergospherical said:
And of course hi=gii=1/gii (no sum), but I'm not sure why you'd want to start re-writing it in this form. Writing it in terms of the scale factors is simplest, no?
Because I am trying to compute the divergence of functions, and since most functions we have are given in spherical/cylindrical coordinates, they are usually expressed in terms of the unit vectors... So the original formula does not work...
 
The quantities ##h_i = \sqrt{g_{ii}}## are usually called the scale factors of the co-ordinates.
 
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