Unit Conversion in Bending Stress Calculations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around unit conversion in bending stress calculations, specifically addressing the units of stress in the context of a homework problem involving beam dimensions and bending moments. Participants explore the relationship between force, area, and the resulting units of stress.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Craig, questions why the final answer for stress is expressed in N/m² and seeks clarification on the units listed in the workbook.
  • Another participant suggests that the workbook might be using units of Nm⁻² for stress, prompting further discussion on the notation.
  • Craig expresses confusion over the notation and seeks an explanation of the -2 in the units.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between force per unit area and the appropriate units, with Craig concluding that stress should be expressed as MN/m² or MN m⁻².
  • There is a clarification on the laws of exponents and how they apply to unit notation.
  • Craig revisits the equation for bending stress and examines the dimensional analysis leading to the final units of N/m².
  • Another participant confirms the understanding of unit conversion and dimensional analysis in the context of the bending stress formula.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between force, area, and the resulting units of stress, but there is some confusion regarding the notation and the correct expression of units. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved as participants clarify their understanding of the units involved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of unit notation and the assumptions made about the expressions used for stress. The participants do not fully resolve the confusion over the notation used in the workbook.

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Homework Statement


This is the problem I am working through. I am up to (b). I am struggling with the units.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/93763273@N05/8815418518/lightbox/

My question is, why is the final answer in N/m^2? and why does the workbooks list stress in the units of N/m^-2

the beam is 100mm wide and 200mm deep

Homework Equations


m/I=σ/y

σ=(my)/I

I = (bd^3)/12

The Attempt at a Solution



I have drawn out the bending moment diagram, and calculated a max bending moment to be m = 8.333kN. This is the same as other people attempting this question are getting. So I am happy with that.
y = 100mm or 0.1m

I = (0.1x0.2^3)/12 = 6.66667x10^-5m^4

so, σ=(my)/I

σ=(8333 x 0.1) / 6.66667x10^-5
σ=12499499.94 N/m^2 or 12.5x10^6N/m^2
or
σ= 12.5 MN/m^2 or 12.5 N/mm^2

Thanks,
Craig
 
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cjm181 said:

Homework Statement


This is the problem I am working through. I am up to (b). I am struggling with the units.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/93763273@N05/8815418518/lightbox/

My question is, why is the final answer in N/m^2? and why does the workbooks list stress in the units of N/m^-2

Are you sure the workbook isn't using units of Nm-2 for stress? {No slash}
 
Argh, yeah they are, so my answer shouldn't have a slash either? the units are MNm-2

So ignoring the slash in my question, can you explain the units to me and what is the -2?

Kr
Craig
 
cjm181 said:
Argh, yeah they are, so my answer shouldn't have a slash either? the units are MNm-2

So ignoring the slash in my question, can you explain the units to me and what is the -2?

Kr
Craig

Remember the Laws of Exponents? How 1/x2 = x-2 ?
 
umm you have confused me a little more now, Stress is force per unit area, so should the answer as I have written it be MN/m2?

Argh, think I have it!
a/b2 is the same as ab-2

so my answer is 12.5MN/m2 or 12.5MN m-2
 
haha was typing out my reply at the same time! thanks SteamKing for pointing me in the right direction!
 
cjm181 said:
umm you have confused me a little more now, Stress is force per unit area, so should the answer as I have written it be MN/m2?

Argh, think I have it!
a/b2 is the same as ab-2

so my answer is 12.5MN/m2 or 12.5MN m-2
Or 12.5 MPa
 
Just on this subject, if in σ=(my)/I we got (Newtons x Metres)/Metres4, then why do we end up with Newton/Metres2??
 
think I got it now, we actually have ((N x m) x m) / m4

so using
an/am=an-m

so it comes down to Nm2/m4 = N (m2/m4) = N/m2
 

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