Universal Gravity & Force Problem (should be easy)

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The problem involves calculating the resultant gravitational force on a mass located at the origin due to two other masses positioned in the xy plane. The masses are given as 6 kg each, with distances of 47 cm and 55 cm from the origin, and the universal gravitational constant is provided.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of gravitational forces and the vector nature of these forces. There is confusion about whether to sum the magnitudes directly or to consider their vector components. Some participants question the accuracy of their calculations and the conversion of units from centimeters to meters.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods of calculating the resultant force. Some guidance has been offered regarding vector addition and the importance of direction in the calculations. There is acknowledgment of potential errors in earlier calculations, and participants are encouraged to check their work for accuracy.

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Participants note that they have previously covered vector addition, but there seems to be some uncertainty about applying it correctly in this context. There is also mention of a discrepancy with an online homework system, which may be affecting their understanding of the expected answer format.

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Homework Statement



Three 6 kg masses are located at points in
the xy plane as shown.
r1=47 cm
r2=55 cm
What is the magnitude of the resultant
force (caused by the other two masses) on
the mass at the origin? The universal gravita-
tional constant is 6.6726 × 10^−11 N · m2/kg2.
Answer in units of N.

Homework Equations


F=G(m2m1/r^2)


The Attempt at a Solution


So I got 8 x 10^-9 for one of the Forces and 1.1x10^-8 for the other. Then I took the magnitude (each squared, added together then square root) and got 1.36015x10^-8. But my online homework said it was wrong. I don't see where I went wrong.
 
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The resultant force is the vector sum of the two forces.

| \vec{F}_1+\vec{F}_2 |^2 \neq | \vec{F}_1|^2+ |\vec{F}_2 |^2
 
Oh, so I should have done 8 x 10^-9 + 1.1x10^-8 and then squared it?
 
bmoore509 said:
Oh, so I should have done 8 x 10^-9 + 1.1x10^-8 and then squared it?

Probably not, they're vectors so they have directions. Without being able to see the diagram, I can only suggest that you determine the components of each vector with respect to the x and y axes. Then you can compute the vector sum.
 
Well, 8x10^-9 is in the y direction and 1.1x10^-8 is in the x direction.

I'm not quite sure what you're telling me to do, though.
 
You might want to check your textbook for a discussion of vector addition, I'm not sure why you haven't covered that yet if you're already doing problems like this. In any case, check your math. I think both forces are off by a factor of 100, perhaps a result of incorrectly converting cm to m.
 
We've covered vector addition. I'm looking for the magnitude of the resultant vector. I thought that would be the square root of (F1^2+f2^2). I'm confused as to why it's not. Or what it is then.
 
47 cm = .47 m
55 cm = .55 m
G = 6.6726 × 10^−11 N · m2/kg2.

Fy = (6.6726 × 10^−11 N · m2/kg2)(6*6)/(.55^2)
=0.000000008
Fx= (6.6726 × 10^−11 N · m2/kg2.)(6*6)/.47^2)
=0.000000011

F = sqrt(0.000000011^2 + 0.000000008^2)=0.000000014
 
bmoore509 said:
We've covered vector addition. I'm looking for the magnitude of the resultant vector. I thought that would be the square root of (F1^2+f2^2). I'm confused as to why it's not. Or what it is then.

You didn't state originally that the forces were perpendicular. If they're perpendicular your calculation is correct. The factor of 100 was my mistake. The only other thing that I can suggest is that your discrepancy with what the computer is looking for is due to round-off error. Carry through more more digits and round off the final answer.
 
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I'm sorry. I should have stated that. I carried it out as far as my calculator can go. What should I do next? (The online homework never makes me round off.)
 
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I got it! You were right. So I used wolfram online to calculate it.
 

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