University Subjects At Middle School

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This discussion centers on the appropriateness of middle school students taking college-level courses, with specific references to programs in the US and Australia. Participants argue that the decline in college standards may justify this trend, while others express concerns about the emotional readiness of younger students for such academic challenges. The International Baccalaureate (IB) program is highlighted as a viable option for students seeking advanced coursework, with varying acceptance of credits across universities. The conversation concludes with a consensus on the need for careful evaluation of the quality of college-level work offered to younger students.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of the International Baccalaureate (IB) Diploma Program
  • Familiarity with Advanced Placement (AP) courses and their credit transfer policies
  • Knowledge of the Bologna Model of higher education
  • Awareness of educational standards and curriculum structures in the US and Australia
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  • Research the International Baccalaureate (IB) Diploma Program and its global acceptance
  • Investigate the Bologna Model and its implications for educational reform
  • Explore the impact of Advanced Placement (AP) courses on college admissions
  • Examine case studies of middle school students successfully completing college courses
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Educators, parents of middle school students, academic advisors, and policymakers interested in curriculum development and educational standards.

  • #31
symbolipoint said:
The result was that after graduation, I still needed to start my course work in college AT Algebra 1 (which was there called, "Elementary Algebra"). Still, doing these same or very similar courses in college insured very good success in these courses.

Interesting approach. What I personally am attracted to is what they do at Harvey Mudd where to be admitted you must do a year of calculus. But they then go through it again at a more advanced level. Its not quite analysis, but you do things like rigorously defining logarithms and exponential's then deriving their properties - things that you do not see at HS (although it could be done, and IMHO should be taught - I well remember being uneasy about this stuff at HS - only with a rigerous treatment did the unease fade). But I am a heretic about teaching things like the trigonometry identities - it should be integrated with calculus - it so easy to prove from Euler's relation the usual methods make me wince a bit. Those that have thought about it may wonder how you prove the differentiation rules of sine and cos without it. If you are interested start another thread and I will explain it - it can be found in that interesting book Calculus Lite.

Thanks
Bill
 
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  • #32
Vanadium 50 said:
They would probably say "lifelong learning" rather than "remedial", but yes, if you are an adult and want to learn about fractions, that's where you would go. A nearby community college offers an even lower class "arithmetic of whole numbers", but it's not for college credit. I think college credit starts around trig.
Yes, and statistics.
 
  • #33
MidgetDwarf said:
Yes, and statistics.
Yes, including that.
The college level courses for the start are these:
Statistics (elementary or introductory), Trigonometry, College Algebra, "Elementary Functions"(or may be called Pre-Calculus).
 
  • #34
It depends on the college. The college in question gives college credit for fractions.

It would be interesting to see which colleges would accept what for transfer credit.
 
  • #35
Vanadium 50 said:
It depends on the college. The college in question gives college credit for fractions.

It would be interesting to see which colleges would accept what for transfer credit.
My understanding is although a college student may earn credit for a remedial course ("fractions", or Basic Arithmetic), it is not counted as transferrable credit for any college (UNIVERSITY level or even A.A.) credit. Yes, the c.c.'s offer remedial Math courses, but they are not college-level. Tell us about any finer points on this.
 
  • #36
That would be what I would hope happens. But I am not sure if, for example, any CC in a state must accept for credit work done at any CC in that state.
 

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