Unravelling the Mystery of Infinite Potential Solutions

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving a potential well with infinite potential from negative infinity to zero, a negative potential from zero to a, and zero potential from a to infinity. The original poster is grappling with the implications of having three unknowns and four equations related to wavefunction continuity and normalization.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the number of equations and unknowns, questioning how the selection of equations affects the solutions. There is discussion about the implications of normalization and continuity conditions at the boundaries of the potential well.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants examining the constraints of the problem and the nature of the solutions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the equations and the coefficients, but there is still uncertainty about the continuity of derivatives and the role of normalization.

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Participants note the complexities introduced by the infinite potential at certain boundaries and the implications for continuity conditions. There is also mention of the normalization constraint and its impact on the determination of coefficients and energy eigenvalues.

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Homework Statement


Say I have a potential that is infinite from - infinity to 0, -V_0 from 0 to a, and 0 from a to infinity.

Then I have three unknowns, two for the plane wave solution in the finite well and one for the exponential outside the well.

But I also have four equations. Two wavefunction continuity boundary conditions and a wavefunction derivative continuity boundary conditions. I also have the normalization equation!

How is this possible? How can the solutions depend on which 3 of the four equations I select to use?


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You already used the normalizability constraint in eliminating the exp(+ax) solution outside the well. Otherwise you would have four equations in four unknowns.
 
But I never used the constraint that square integral over all space of the piecewise wavefunction must be 1.
 
You used that it should be finite and then arbitrarily threw away a free constant.
 
But if I use the 3 boundary conditions to determine the 3 remaining constants then I could get a wavefunction with no adjustable parameters left and with a square integral over all of space not equal to 1, right?
 
No. If you've done this problem, and I know you have, you should know that the remaining three constants are only determined up to a multiplicative constant. If you want to continue bickering about this just do it with four equations and four unknowns. The same thing will happen.
 
I do not want to bicker. I just want to understand the problem.

I found that it is not even possible to implement the continuity of the derivatives at a which makes some sense considering the shape of the functions. So I was wrong, there are only a total of three constraints left and all is well.

I am not sure why it makes sense that the derivatives would not be continuous since there are no delta functions at boundaries, though?
 
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The derivative at zero is not continuous because there is an infinite potential at x=0. That's worse than a delta function.
 
Of course. I am talking about the derivatives at a.
 
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The derivatives at a are continuous.
 
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So, maybe I did something wrong. I still do not understand what you were saying about the "the remaining three constants are only determined up to a multiplicative constant".

We have three equations and three unknowns, we should be able to uniqually determine each of the unknowns if there is a solution.
 
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The point is that your four equations will determine the three coefficients AND the set of allowed energy eigenvalues.
 
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Yes. I agree with that.
 
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So, that's the solution. If you don't use normalization, then you don't determine the values of all three coefficients, but only their ratios; the 3rd equation then determines the allowed eigenvalues.
 
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Thanks. I see.
 

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