Unstable System: Pole in Right Half - Why?

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The discussion centers on the stability of systems in control theory, specifically addressing why a pole located in the right half of the s-plane indicates instability. Participants explore the relationship between pole location and system behavior, including oscillations and feedback mechanisms.

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  • One participant questions the logic behind the instability of a system with poles in the right half of the s-plane.
  • Another participant suggests that positive feedback leads to any small oscillation growing indefinitely, contributing to instability.
  • A different participant explains that the stability of a system is linked to the roots of the characteristic polynomial, noting that for stability, the real part of the poles must be negative.
  • Another contribution emphasizes the importance of the denominator of the transfer function, warning that a term approaching zero at positive frequencies indicates potential oscillation and instability.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and explanation regarding the relationship between pole location and system stability. There is no consensus on a singular explanation, and multiple viewpoints are presented.

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Some participants reference foundational concepts in control theory, such as the relationship between time and frequency domains, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions or definitions related to stability.

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This discussion may be of interest to students and professionals in control theory, engineering, and related fields who are exploring system stability and the implications of pole locations in the s-plane.

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I have read that if pole of a function or say , a system lies in right half of a s-plane , then the system is unstable..! But I did'nt get the logic behind it..! What's the reasn of system being unstable if pole is lying in right half..?? Please elaborate...!
 
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Because it will have positive feedback. Any small oscillation will grow in size without limit.
 
To understand the meaning of the pole location in the s-plane one should know about the following relation between time and frequency domain:

The denominator D(s) of a systems transfer function H(s) always is identical to the characteristic polynominal P(s) of the differential equation in the time domain.
To find the time domain solution we have to calculate the roots of the characteristic equation P(s)=0.
Therefore, the roots (zeros) of the characteristic equation are identical to denominator`s zeros - equivalent to the poles of H(s).

Now - for a system to be stable we require that the real part σ of the time domain solution [exp(σT)] is negative (decaying amplitude).
That means: Also the poles of the transfer function H(s) must have a negative sign (must be in the left half of the s.plane).
 
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Look at the denominator of your transfer function while remembering that right half of plane is positive frequency.
If denominator has a term that goes to zero at some positive frequency, well, that's division by zero at that frequency
and since transfer function is output/input
a denominator of zero means it can have an output with zero input
and that's an oscillator.

So any time you get a quadratic denominator, watch out. There's a potential for oscillation.

It's been fifty years now since my controls course. Doubtless some younger member can phrase it better for you , and in today's terminology.

EDIT: oops i see Lvw already did !

old jim
 

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