US Presidential Primaries, 2008

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The forum discussion centers on the predictions for the 2008 US Presidential Primaries, specifically focusing on the Iowa Caucus results for both the Democratic and Republican parties. Participants express their predictions, with Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Edwards being the primary Democratic contenders, while Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney lead the Republican predictions. The discussion highlights the competitive nature of the primaries, with various polls indicating fluctuating support for the candidates, particularly in Iowa, where the caucus is imminent.

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Who will be the eventual nominee from each party?

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  • #31
Maybe the reason people are less keen on predicting election outcomes than outcomes of football or soccer games is the lack of adequate marketing. First, I think we need some kind of catchy name. It seems that in competitions of this sort, the tested formula is to use the phrase 'Fantasy League'. I hereby dub this the PF 2008 Fantasy League for forecasting the number of delegates bound to various Presidential candidates in a state by state basis.

There! Now I can sit back and watch the masses throng the thread.

Ivan, if you wish to be included in the Fantasy League, you need to make 3 guesses for each party and number them as in post #22.
 
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  • #32
It's too close to call, one poll result from 3 hours ago shows Clinton at 34% and Obama at 25%, another poll from 5 hours ago showed Obama leading at 32% and Clinton at 28%.
 
  • #33
Gokul43201 said:
Ivan, if you wish to be included in the Fantasy League,

That's okay, every women that I've ever dated told me that I'm already a member. :rolleyes:

This has been so tight that I can't even guess without guessing completely. I might as well roll the dice or draw straws.

There are signs that Romney has made a last minute come-back.
 
  • #34
I'll play

Democrats
1. Clinton
2. Obama
3. Edwards

Republicans
1. Huckabee
2. Romney
3. Thompson
 
  • #35
Ivan Seeking said:
This has been so tight that I can't even guess without guessing completely. I might as well roll the dice or draw straws.
What's wrong with that? So long as you participate, 5 points out of 12 are just there for the taking. If you throw them away, you will later regret it when you hit that Nostradamus moment before Super Tuesday.

To all: One can join the game at any point, but the scores are cumulative. So you lose out by joining late.
 
  • #36
Gokul43201 said:
Maybe the reason people are less keen on predicting election outcomes than outcomes of football or soccer games is the lack of adequate marketing. First, I think we need some kind of catchy name. It seems that in competitions of this sort, the tested formula is to use the phrase 'Fantasy League'. I hereby dub this the PF 2008 Fantasy League for forecasting the number of delegates bound to various Presidential candidates in a state by state basis.

There! Now I can sit back and watch the masses throng the thread.

Ivan, if you wish to be included in the Fantasy League, you need to make 3 guesses for each party and number them as in post #22.

The PF 2008 FLFFTNODBTVPRIASBSB?

At least it's fun to say it five times quickly.
 
  • #38
BobG said:
The PF 2008 FLFFTNODBTVPRIASBSB?
Heavens, no! It's the PF 2008 FLFFTNODBTVPCIASBSB.

So, we're up to 6 League members now! Three are degenerate (or should I say "degenerates"?).
 
  • #39
Wow! Edwards takes an early lead, but only 2% of the polls are reporting.
 
  • #40
I didn't see this linked, so: http://www.iowacaucusresults.com/
 
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  • #41
And I'm going to go ahead and predict:

1. Edwards
2. Obama
3. Clinton

1. Huckabee
2. Romney
3. McCain
 
  • #42
Coin said:
And I'm going to go ahead and predict:

1. Edwards
2. Obama
3. Clinton

1. Huckabee
2. Romney
3. McCain

19% of the precincts are already reporting. That is cutting it pretty close.
 
  • #43
Also talkingpointsmemo has a live results counter for both parties... I don't know what their sources are but they now say with 2% reporting the Republican results are:

33% Huckabee
24% Romney
18% Thompson
12% McCain
11% Paul
 
  • #44
CNN is tracking a little closer. They have the dems at 31%, and the reps at 15%.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#IA

Yay! NBC is giving Obama the lead based on exit polls. It also appears that there is a large turn-out for Obama's base. It also appears that he is pulling the female vote - likely bad bad news for Hillary.

I would love to see Obama win this.
 
  • #45
CNN is projecting Chuckybee the R winner.
 
  • #46
Obama is pulling ahead! He's like a point and a half ahead. The other two are within 0.3% of each other.

If Obama can get ahead this early then he probably is going to win. Supposedly we should expect Obama to do better in the late-reporting districts than the early-reporting districts, because urban districts take longer to report results and Obama's support is stronger in those areas. Oh well, looks like I lose the predictions game :)
 
  • #47
45% reporting, Dems: O 33%, C 32%, E 32%

Huck (35%) has IA with a big lead over Romney (24%). Thompson will likely edge out McCain and Paul.
 
  • #48
Obama takes a 2 point lead at 50% reporting.

This is better than a horse race!
 
  • #49
A very slow horserace :)
 
  • #50
Coin said:
A very slow horserace :)

A very long track. :biggrin:

Edwards is tied with Hillary at 31%

Obama 35%
 
  • #51
Yahooooo! CNN predicts Obama wins!
 
  • #52
AP/Yahoo said:
Mike Huckabee, a Baptist preacher turned politician, rode a wave of support from evangelical Christians to victory Thursday night in the Iowa caucuses, first test in the race for the Republican presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards struggled for supremacy in a close Democratic contest.
Apprently Huckabee has won the Republican contest.
 
  • #53
Astronuc said:
Just to be different :biggrin:

Democrats
1. Clinton
2. Obama
3. Edwards

Republicans
1. Huckabee
2. Romney
3. Thompson
Well, I wish I had gone with Obama, Edwards, Clinton. That would be great.

Apparently -
Clinton, Obama and Edwards had all urged voters to consider them if their own candidate fell short. Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio publicly urged his backers to line up with Obama on a second round, and two Democrats said aides to New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson did likewise as the caucuses unfolded. Those two spoke on condition of anonymity, citing private discussions.
I hope Obama keeps going strong.

Looks like I got the Reps right. :biggrin:
On the Republican undercard, former Sen. Fred Thompson was running third, while McCain, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Texas Rep. Ron Paul were bunched in a contest for fourth place.
Of the top 3 R's I prefer Thompson.

Are the any Iowans at PF?
 
  • #54
McCain has pulled ahead of Thompson, but about 22% of precincts are left to report.

Edwards is still a few votes/delegates ahead of Clinton with 95% of precincts reporting for the Dems.

Somehow the Democratic caucuses are done differently than Republican caucuses, based on the way the numbers are reported.
 
  • #55
It seems that the other big story may be the turn-out for the democrats. The pundits thus far have been indicating that the numbers bode well for the Democrats, next November.
 
  • #56
I really like to see things going a way that completely contradicts the pundits and prognosticators.
 
  • #57
Astronuc said:
I really like to see things going a way that completely contradicts the pundits and prognosticators.

I like that there appears to be a huge turn-out for change. This is great news! Exit polls cited earlier indicated that nearly half of the democrats caucusing had never voted before. Also, Edwards is pretty much dead, and I would expect a large percentage of his votes to go to Obama instead of Hillary or a Republican. Also, Ron Paul did pretty well, and I would bet that Obama will pull much of his base as well.

It looks like Hillary is officially third, with Edwards taking second place. Obama wins 38% to 30% to 29%.
 
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  • #58
Zippity doo dah! Nice going Obama! Still waiting for more reporting out of the Republican caucus...third place looks close. Both the winners wound up with much larger leads than the polls were indicating. This should really help Obama in NH and Huckabee in FL. And if Huck takes FL, that might spell the end of Giuliani.
 
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  • #59
BobG said:
The only Republican that will have any chance against Obama might be Giulani
Hah. Try instead: any of them.
 
  • #60
Maybe the pundits are right about something--Obama at least offers the appearance of something other than politics as usual, and may galvanize support from the disenfranchized, the youth vote and folks like myself, who suffer from terminal cynicism and boredom with the repubocrats offered up time after time.
 

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