Use Green's theorem to evaluate the line integral

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The discussion focuses on using Green's theorem to evaluate the line integral of the function ∫y^3 dx + (x^3 + 3xy^2) dy along a specified path. Initial attempts involved calculating integrals for two paths, but errors were identified, particularly regarding the inclusion of 'y' in the integral. A correct application of Green's theorem was later presented, involving the derivatives ∂N/∂x and ∂M/∂y, leading to a double integral setup. The final answer obtained was 1/4, and participants encouraged verifying this result through path integrals. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying Green's theorem rather than just computing path integrals.
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Use Green's theorem to evaluate the line integral:

∫y3 dx + (x3 + 3xy2) dy

where C is the path along the graph of y=x3 from (0,0) to (1,1) and from (1,1) to (0,0) along the graph of y=x.

2. The attempt at a solution

I've completed two integrals for both paths (y=x3 & y=x).

My first integration: ∫^{1}_{0} (x9 + 3x6 + 3x6y6) dx

And for my second: ∫^{0}_{1} (1 + x3 + 3x) dx

Then I combined the two, making sure I changed the signs of the second integral to change my limits.

∫^{1}_{0} (x9 + 3x6 + 3x6y6) dx - ∫^{1}_{0} (-1 - x3 - 3x) dx

I believe that all I have to do now is simple integration? Is my work, so far, okay?
 
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I just realized that I was not supposed to have a "y" in my integral.
Also found some more errors!

1st Integration
I believe the function to integrate should be: 10x9+3x6 dx
 
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aaronfue said:
I just realized that I was not supposed to have a "y" in my integral.
Also found some more errors!

1st Integration
I believe the function to integrate should be: 10x9+3x6 dx

You are getting closer, but that's still not right. Can you show how you got that? And what you are doing is just computing the path integrals. That's good and you should do it. But that's not doing it using Green's theorem.
 
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You are getting closer, but that's still not right. Can you show how you got that? And what you are doing is just computing the path integrals. That's good and you should do it. But that's not doing it using Green's theorem.

I was able to solve this problem using Green's Theorem (I hope):

First:
\frac{∂N}{∂x} = 3x2 + 3y2

\frac{∂M}{∂y}= 3y2

Second:
Using the equation: ∫R∫ (\frac{∂N}{∂x} - \frac{∂M}{∂y}) dA

∫^{1}_{0}∫^{x}_{x^3} (3x2 + 3y2)-(3y2) dydx

My answer was \frac{1}{4}
 
aaronfue said:
I was able to solve this problem using Green's Theorem (I hope):

First:
\frac{∂N}{∂x} = 3x2 + 3y2

\frac{∂M}{∂y}= 3y2

Second:
Using the equation: ∫R∫ (\frac{∂N}{∂x} - \frac{∂M}{∂y}) dA

∫^{1}_{0}∫^{x}_{x^3} (3x2 + 3y2)-(3y2) dydx

My answer was \frac{1}{4}

Yes, that's exactly right. It wouldn't hurt to check that's right using the path integrals. Can you do that, since it's the route you started? I kind of think the error you were making in post 2 was x^2*x^3=x^5. Not x^6.
 
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