Useful programming languages to learn?

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The discussion revolves around the most useful programming languages to learn, particularly in the context of computational biophysics and related fields. Participants explore various languages, their applications, and the implications of learning multiple languages versus focusing on one.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is learning Python for computational biophysics and seeks advice on other useful languages, mentioning C, C++, and Scheme.
  • Another participant suggests that mastering one language is sufficient, emphasizing that programming concepts can be learned through one language and that switching between languages is easier once programming is understood.
  • Some participants argue that learning multiple languages can provide deeper insights into programming concepts, with C being beneficial for understanding hardware and Scheme for functional programming.
  • There are mixed opinions on C++; one participant describes it as poorly designed, while another acknowledges its utility in applications requiring performance and software design.
  • Python is frequently recommended as the best starting point for learning programming due to its simplicity and effectiveness.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the programming skills of computer science majors, suggesting that physics students may not be at a disadvantage.
  • There are discussions about the limitations of Scheme and Lisp, with some participants arguing that Python can achieve similar results more efficiently.
  • Several participants mention online resources for learning Python, including courses from Coursera and Udacity.
  • One participant contemplates the idea of co-learning Scheme while primarily focusing on Python, noting that Scheme may change their approach to problem-solving.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of Python as a starting language, but there is no consensus on the necessity or utility of learning additional languages like C, C++, or Scheme. Opinions vary on the effectiveness of C++ and the relevance of computer science education in practical programming skills.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of understanding algorithms and data structures as part of becoming a proficient programmer, suggesting that knowledge of multiple languages is beneficial for different problem domains.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and professionals in computational fields, particularly those interested in programming languages, their applications, and the learning process in programming.

  • #31
From Bipolarity,

The default Python IDE is very user friendly, and I found Python very nice when designing GUIs, performing my hobby cryptanalysis among various things.

That is great to know. This makes Python more appealing to try to learn than it seemed before. (That it can create graphical user-interfaces).

Both Python and Processing are OOP, so they have huge advantages over the non-OOP languages.

(Read about oop, still never understood clearly).
 
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  • #32
symbolipoint said:
From Bipolarity,



That is great to know. This makes Python more appealing to try to learn than it seemed before. (That it can create graphical user-interfaces).



(Read about oop, still never understood clearly).

OOP is just about the implementation of things like classes, class attributes, object instantiation and inheritance. It allows for a way to visualize elements of the code which would otherwise be very abstract.

BiP
 

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