Uses of very large magnetic fields

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The discussion revolves around the potential uses and implications of extremely large magnetic fields, particularly those exceeding 100,000 Tesla, in modern research and applications. Participants explore both theoretical and practical aspects, including hypothetical scenarios and existing technologies.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces the concept of magnetars, highlighting their immense magnetic fields and the phenomenon of photon splitting, and questions the potential applications of fields around 100,000 Tesla.
  • Another participant suggests the idea of levitating objects using diamagnetic levitation, indicating a more playful perspective on the implications of strong magnetic fields.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that a magnetic field of about 50 Tesla could enable human flight, indicating a threshold for practical applications.
  • One participant discusses the possibility of using magnetic fields for safe crash landings of spacecraft, comparing it to free fall under acceleration, suggesting a method to mitigate stress on astronauts during landing.
  • Another participant speculates about the creation of cosmic rays and expresses curiosity about the strength of magnets used in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), questioning the feasibility of replacing existing magnets with more powerful ones.
  • A later post provides a detailed description of the effects of extreme magnetic fields on atomic structures, emphasizing the lethal nature of fields exceeding 10^9 Gauss and the potential for forming unusual atomic arrangements at even higher fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of ideas and hypotheses regarding the uses of large magnetic fields, with no consensus reached on specific applications or the feasibility of proposed concepts. Multiple competing views and speculative ideas remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the effects of magnetic fields on atomic structures and the implications for life are based on theoretical considerations and may depend on specific conditions or definitions. The discussion includes uncertainty regarding the actual capabilities of existing technologies like the LHC.

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Ok, so i was browsing around wiki and read about something called a magnetar, which is a very dense neutron star producing magnetic fields in the order of 10 gigatesla. According to the write up, photons split up readily into 2 or more photons. now i know the most powerful magnets we have available for experimental purposes is about 1000 T, my question is, hypothetically of course, what would be the potential uses of a powerful reproducable field in the order of 100,000+Tesla to modern research?
 
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Who cares about research?! We could float haha... look up Diamagnetic Levitation :)
 
To make humans fly about 50 Tesla should be enough.
 
You could safely crash land astronauts on e.g. Mars (like we sent the Mars rovers or the Pathfinder) using magnetic fields. When the spacecraft hits the surface, they will be accelerated at perhaps 30 g. But if this force is transferred to the volume of the body in a more or less uniform way (uniform per unit mass), then no stresses will build up in the body. It is similar to being in free fall while accelerating at 30 g in a gravitational field.
 
maybe we could make cosmic rays:
http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/28268

1000T sounds high..I though the LHC was around ten or so?
in any case, I bet CERN would love to be able to exchange their high energy and apparently fragile magnets for something more powerful and efficient...

splitting one photon into two photons seems spooky...
 
http://solomon.as.utexas.edu/~duncan/magnetar.html"

The strongest magnetic field that you are ever likely to encounter personally is about 10^4 Gauss if you have Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) scan for medical diagnosis. Such fields pose no threat to your health, hardly affecting the atoms in your body. Fields in excess of 10^9 Gauss, however, would be instantly lethal. Such fields strongly distort atoms, compressing atomic electron clouds into cigar shapes, with the long axis aligned with the field, thus rendering the chemistry of life impossible. A magnetar within 1000 kilometers would thus kill you via pure static magnetism -- if it didn't already get you with X-rays, gamma rays, high energy particles, extreme gravity, bursts and flares...
In fields much stronger than 10^9 Gauss, atoms are compressed into thin needles. At 10^14 Gauss, atomic needles have widths of about 1% of their length, hundreds of times thinner than unmagnetized atoms. Such atoms can form polymer-like molecular chains or fibers. A carpet of such magnetized fibers probably exist at the surface of a magnetar, at least in places where the surface is cool enough to form atoms.
 
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