Using a bigger battery for a computer UPS?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and implications of replacing a smaller battery in a UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) with a larger capacity battery to extend backup duration. Participants explore technical aspects, compatibility, and safety considerations related to battery types and configurations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that using a larger battery can effectively increase backup duration, but questions remain about the potential for overloading the UPS and whether it can charge the larger battery.
  • Another participant notes that while connecting multiple batteries in parallel is common, the original UPS battery is likely a deep discharge gel battery, which can be discharged more safely than a typical car battery.
  • A question is raised about the meaning of discharge limits for different battery types, specifically the implications of discharging to 10-25% for gel batteries versus 50-60% for car batteries.
  • Concerns are expressed regarding the suitability of car batteries for UPS applications, with a suggestion that leisure batteries may be more appropriate due to their design for sustained discharge.
  • Safety issues are highlighted, including the risks of high current flows from larger batteries and the necessity for proper fusing or circuit breakers to prevent hazards.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the suitability of various battery types for UPS applications, with some advocating for larger batteries while others caution against potential risks and limitations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for proper ventilation when using unsealed batteries due to hydrogen gas emissions during charging. There are also concerns about the charging capabilities of the UPS when connected to a larger battery.

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Hi guys,

I m considering changing the battery to a bigger one so as to increase the backup duration.

The battery that came with it is 12V 7.5 Ah. The battery I m planning to put is a 12 V 100 Ah. Now my question is, will the big battery increase the standby duration without overloading and damaging the hardware in the UPS.And will it charge the bigger battery?

I have an APC Back-UPS ES 500 VA,300 Watts.And having the battery externally is what I had in mind.Thoughts please ?
 
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Yes it's a common way of making a decent backup power. Take the electronics from a UPS and hook up a whole bunch of cheap car batteries in parallel.

A couple of important points - the battery supplied with the UPS is probably a deep discharge gel battery, it can be discharged to within say 10-25% of empty without damage. A car battery can only be discharged to 50-60% repeatedly.
The charging rate will be optomised for the sealed batteries but an unsealed car battery can cope with a faster rate. If you are using an unsealed battery make sure it is well ventilated - explosive hydrogen is given off when it charges,
 
what exactly do you mean discharge to 10-25 % without damage and 60 % in case of a car battery.CAn you elaborate on that if you don't mind ?

When I go for multiple batteries, will the input voltage double in both parallel and serial connections assuming I connect two batteries in this case ?Will this also increase the watts that the UPS can handle ?
 
Car batteries are not good for medium or low current applications where the current is drawn over a long period of time. They can suffer damage if discharged too deeply. They are really for starting engines. Leisure batteries (for caravans - trailers) are more suitable.

High current batteries are pretty dangerous. If you get a short circuit a heck of big current can flow and there may be a blinding flash like an arc welder. You MUST have proper fusing and/or a circuit breaker. A larger battery might demand a hefty charging current and blow a charger which has been designed for a smaller battery.
 

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