Using boiling temperature as a proxy for vapor pressure

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Isopropanol is more volatile than water, with a higher vapor pressure of 40 mmHg at 23.8 degrees Celsius compared to water's 17.5 mmHg at 20 degrees Celsius, and a lower boiling point. The discussion raises the question of whether any molecules exist that have both higher vapor pressures and higher boiling points than water. It notes that a vapor pressure chart shows few intersections between different molecules' vapor pressures. The boiling point is defined as the temperature where vapor pressure equals 1 atm, indicating that no molecule can simultaneously have both higher vapor pressure and boiling point than water. However, it is suggested that vapor pressure curves for two different molecules could intersect under certain conditions, particularly if one has a higher latent heat and the other a higher boiling temperature. The discussion also touches on the methods for objectively comparing vapor pressures, questioning if measurements are standardized by moles of each substance.
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So, we know that isopropanol is more volatile than water. We know that since isopropanol has a higher vapor pressure (40 mmHg at 23.8 degrees Celsius, whereas water is 17.5 mmHg at 20 degrees Celsius). We also know that isopropanol has a lower boiling point than water.

Now, are there molecules that have higher vapor pressures than water *and* higher boiling points than water? The chart at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Vapor_Pressure_Chart.png shows very few intersections. But I wonder - are there cases where the vapor pressure curves for two molecules do intersect?

Also, how do we objectively compare the vapor pressures between two molecules? Do people try to measure the vapor pressure for a specific number of moles of a molecule? (and set the number of moles of N2 equal to the number of moles of H2O, if they want to compare the vapor pressures between the two molecules?)
 
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Simfish said:
Now, are there molecules that have higher vapor pressures than water *and* higher boiling points than water?

The boiling point is the temperature at which the vapor pressure equals 1 atm, so not simultaneously, no.

Simfish said:
But I wonder - are there cases where the vapor pressure curves for two molecules do intersect?

The vapor pressure p should scale as

p\propto \exp\left[-L\left(\frac{1}{T}-{\frac{1}{T_\mathrm{B}}\right)\right]

where L is the latent heat and T_\mathrm{B} is the boiling temperature. So it would seem that this could occur with two materials if one had the higher latent heat and the other had the higher boiling temperature.
 
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