Using L'Hopital's Rule to Evaluate Limits

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit $$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}(ln(2x)-ln(x-4))$$ using L'Hôpital's Rule. The subject area involves calculus, specifically limits and logarithmic functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the application of L'Hôpital's Rule and discuss the transformation of the limit into a logarithmic form. Some participants question the necessity of applying L'Hôpital's Rule within the logarithm and consider alternative methods for evaluating the limit.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the limit, with some participants suggesting the use of logarithmic properties and others questioning the application of L'Hôpital's Rule. Guidance has been offered regarding the continuity of the logarithmic function and its implications for limit evaluation.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the necessity of using L'Hôpital's Rule, indicating a potential lack of clarity on the problem setup or alternative methods. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches to the limit evaluation.

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Homework Statement



How can I fount the following limit using L'H'opetal rule?
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}(ln(2x)-ln(x-4))$$

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The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to use the low
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow a} f(x)=\lim_{x\rightarrow a}e^{ln(f(x))}=e^l$$
But it seems to be useless

Many thanks for Help,.
 
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Maged Saeed said:

Homework Statement



How can I fount the following limit using L'H'opetal rule?
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}(ln(2x)-ln(x-4))$$

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to use the low
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow a} f(x)=\lim_{x\rightarrow a}e^{ln(f(x))}=e^l$$
But it seems to be useless

Many thanks for Help,.

Start by using some rules of logs, like ln(a)-ln(b)=ln(a/b). Can you find the limit of the a/b part?
 
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$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}(ln(2x)-ln(x-4))$$
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}(ln \frac{2x}{x-4})$$

Yes I can use L'H'opetal rule to find (a/b)

$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}ln(\frac{2x}{x-4})$$
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}ln(\frac{2}{1})$$

Oh,, it will be ln(2) .

But how can I use L'H'opetal rule inside the (ln)?

Thanks_For_Help
:)
 
Maged Saeed said:
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}(ln(2x)-ln(x-4))$$
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}(ln \frac{2x}{x-4})$$

Yes I can use L'H'opetal rule to find (a/b)

$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}ln(\frac{2x}{x-4})$$
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}ln(\frac{2}{1})$$

Oh,, it will be ln(2) .

But how can I use L'H'opetal rule inside the (ln)?

Thanks_For_Help
:)

Because ln is a continuous function. If ##\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty} f(x)=L## and ##L>0## then ##\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty} ln(f(x))=ln(L)##. Use l'Hopital to find the limit of the expression inside the ln.
 
Maged Saeed said:
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}(ln(2x)-ln(x-4))$$
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}(ln \frac{2x}{x-4})$$

Yes I can use L'H'opetal rule to find (a/b)

$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}ln(\frac{2x}{x-4})$$
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow+\infty}ln(\frac{2}{1})$$

Oh,, it will be ln(2) .

But how can I use L'H'opetal rule inside the (ln)?

Thanks_For_Help
:)

Why do you want to use l'Hopital's rule inside the log?
 
SteamKing said:
Why do you want to use l'Hopital's rule inside the log?

I'm supposed to solve it by L'Hopital's rule .
But I didn't think about another idea to solve it.
 
Is there another way to do it?
 
Maged Saeed said:
Is there another way to do it?
See Dick's post #4.
 
Maged Saeed said:
Is there another way to do it?
\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \frac{2x}{x-4}=\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\frac{2}{1-4/x}
4/x goes to zero ...
 
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ehild said:
\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \frac{2x}{x-4}=\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\frac{2}{1-4/x}
4/x goes to zero ...

The right answer is ln (2)

Thus , I should evaluate the limit inside the (ln) then the final answer should be put in the (ln).
 
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Maged Saeed said:
The right answer is ln (2)

Thus , I should evaluate the limit inside the (ln) then the final answer should be put in the (ln).

Yes :)
 
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