Using the definition of the partial derivative

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The discussion revolves around finding the partial derivative of the expression sqrt[x]y^2 - 4xy with respect to x, specifically using the definition of the partial derivative rather than derivative rules.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the challenges of applying the definition of the partial derivative, particularly when substituting x + h for x. There are attempts to express the derivative using limits and to simplify the resulting expressions.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the correctness of expressions derived using derivative rules. Others are exploring the limit process and discussing techniques to simplify the expressions for easier evaluation.

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There is an emphasis on using the definition of the partial derivative, and participants are navigating through the complexities of the limit process, indicating potential confusion or gaps in understanding the application of the definition.

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I need some help with this partial derivative. I can do it by rules, but when I try and do it out using the definition of the partial derivative, I run into problems.

Homework Statement


Find the partial derivative of sqrt[x]y^2 - 4xy with respect to x


The Attempt at a Solution


Going through while holding a variable constant and using basic derivative rules, I was able to get:

(y^2) / 2sqrt[x] - 4y
 
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hi
As long as that is
(y^2) / (2.sqrt[x]) - 4y
looks good to me...
 
I got that answer by using derivative rules, and not by the definition. When you plug in x+h for x you get sqrt[x+h].. and that's where I'm getting stuck.

I come out getting this:

(4hy + (sqrt[x+h] - sqrt[x])y^2)/h
 
cchase88 said:
I got that answer by using derivative rules, and not by the definition. When you plug in x+h for x you get sqrt[x+h].. and that's where I'm getting stuck.

I come out getting this:

(4hy + (sqrt[x+h] - sqrt[x])y^2)/h
It's getting close to bedtime, so I don't have time to check your work up to this point. Assuming that it's correct up to this point, split the expression above into the sum of two terms, like so:
4hy/h + (sqrt(x + h) - sqrt(x))*y
[tex]\frac{4hy}{h} + \frac{y^2(\sqrt{x + h} - \sqrt{x})}{h}[/tex]

It'll be easy to take the limit as h goes to zero for the term on the left, but the one on the right needs a trick, namely to multiply it (the quotient on the right) by 1 in the form of
[tex]\frac{\sqrt{x + h} + \sqrt{x}}{\sqrt{x + h} + \sqrt{x}}[/tex]

That should give you something that you can take the limit on.
 

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