Using water to create electric energy

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a small amount of water to generate electric energy sufficient to heat a bar. Participants explore various theoretical methods and concepts related to energy conversion, including gravitational, thermal, nuclear, and kinetic energy extraction.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the initial idea, suggesting that without further elaboration, it may not be feasible to generate enough current from a small amount of water.
  • Another participant proposes multiple methods to generate electricity from water, including using gravitational potential energy by placing water on a cart at the top of a hill, and converting heat energy from hot water to a colder mass using a heat engine.
  • A further suggestion involves placing water in the core of a star to utilize nuclear fusion, with solar panels to capture the energy produced.
  • Another method proposed is to use the kinetic energy from a planet or spacecraft impacting water to generate electricity.
  • A humorous suggestion involves incentivizing athletes to generate electricity by using a stationary bicycle while being offered water.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of the initial question, with some methods proposed being more theoretical and speculative than practical. Multiple competing views and ideas remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some methods proposed rely on assumptions about energy conversion efficiency and practical implementation, which are not fully explored or resolved in the discussion.

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Could a small amount of water be made somehow to create enough electric current to make a small heater bar hot or to even warm up?
 
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Without you elaborating more on what your idea is, no.
 
Yes. There are several ways it can be done. By "small amount of water" I will suppose you mean 1 gallon since you did specify.

1. Build a cart with a generator attached to 1 or more wheels. Place the cart at the top of a large hill. place your jug of water on the cart. Convert the gravitational potential energy of the water into electricity, and then heat your bar.

2. If the water in question is hotter then some other mass you have access to you could build a heat engine to capture energy moving from the hot water to the cold mass and convert it to electricity. This will also work if you have access to a mass that is hotter then the water, you just need to turn the heat engine around.

3. You could place the water in the core of a star. The heat and pressure will cause the hydrogen and oxygen to undergo nuclear fusion. Place solar panels around the star to capture the energy and turn it into electricity.

4. Place the water in the path of a planet or spacecraft with a high relative velocity. Instruct the inhabitants of the planet or spacecraft to construct an apparatus to convert the energy of impact into electrical energy.

Ok so there are means of extracting gravitational, thermal, nuclear, and kinetic energy from water. I'm sure there are more kinds of energy then that in a gallon of water but that's what comes to mind right now.
 
mrspeedybob said:
Yes. There are several ways it can be done. By "small amount of water" I will suppose you mean 1 gallon since you did specify.

1. Build a cart with a generator attached to 1 or more wheels. Place the cart at the top of a large hill. place your jug of water on the cart. Convert the gravitational potential energy of the water into electricity, and then heat your bar.

2. If the water in question is hotter then some other mass you have access to you could build a heat engine to capture energy moving from the hot water to the cold mass and convert it to electricity. This will also work if you have access to a mass that is hotter then the water, you just need to turn the heat engine around.

3. You could place the water in the core of a star. The heat and pressure will cause the hydrogen and oxygen to undergo nuclear fusion. Place solar panels around the star to capture the energy and turn it into electricity.

4. Place the water in the path of a planet or spacecraft with a high relative velocity. Instruct the inhabitants of the planet or spacecraft to construct an apparatus to convert the energy of impact into electrical energy.

Ok so there are means of extracting gravitational, thermal, nuclear, and kinetic energy from water. I'm sure there are more kinds of energy then that in a gallon of water but that's what comes to mind right now.
You forgot. Neils Bohr had one final technique when asked an analogous question about the barometer.
5) Go to a gymnasium. Look for athletes who are resting on the benches. Offer some thirsty athlete a gallon of water if he will work out for five minutes on the stationary bicycle. The generator on the stationary bicycle will generate electrical energy.
 

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