Vacuum chamber thickness design

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The discussion focuses on determining the vacuum pressure that a 36" diameter, 12-meter long pipe, designed for an internal pressure of 98 bar, can sustain. Experts express concern about the safety and structural integrity of the vacuum chamber, emphasizing the need for detailed calculations and considerations regarding wall thickness and external support. Questions arise about the chamber's purpose, temperature range, and whether it contains materials that contact the walls. Suggestions include using alternative materials like plywood with a plastic film for added support. The conversation highlights the importance of expertise in designing pressure vessels and the potential dangers involved.
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Vacuum pressure for design of pipe

Dear experts,
I have a line pipe which internal design pressure is 98 bar,dia is 36: thickness is 13 mm,length is 12 mtr. I want to know that how much vacuum pressure sustain by this line pipe?

Regards,
Satish patel,
 
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I want to design 36" OD,12 mtr long vacuum chamber with 1 mbar vacuum pressure.
Request to gove sample calculation for find out thickness of the same.
 
A vacuum in the atmosphere on the surface of the Earth cannot be greater than one bar, so maybe your question is …
If the pipe is rated for an internal pressure of 98 bar, then when it has a vacuum inside, how much external pressure can it withstand before it collapses?
 
Does the chamber contain anything that contacts the wall ?
What temperature range must it withstand ?

The wall only needs to withstand one atmosphere = 14.5 psi.

Can you support a very thin wall with an external structure that will maintain the surface curvature and therefore prevent collapse of the surface.

Consider also avoiding metal by using a plywood inner surface with a plastic film shrunk on to the outside.
Surface stability requires thickness, it could be laminated with a foam core.
 
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satish19183 said:
Dear experts,
I have a line pipe which internal design pressure is 98 bar,dia is 36: thickness is 13 mm,length is 12 mtr. I want to know that how much vacuum pressure sustain by this line pipe?

Regards,
Satish patel,

satish19183 said:
I want to design 36" OD,12 mtr long vacuum chamber with 1 mbar vacuum pressure.
Request to gove sample calculation for find out thickness of the same.

Welcome to the PF.

(I've merged your two threads on what looks to be the same type of question)

It is a bit worrisome that you are asking questions like this here on an Internet forum. What experience do you have with pressure vessels? What are you working on? What is your educational background?

We have rules here at the PF concerning dangerous activities. We are able to help professionals with questions about pressure vessels. But we would be reluctant to help an amateur experiment with high pressure vessels (or vacuum chambers) where a failure of the vessel could cause people to get hurt.
 
satish19183 said:
dia is 36: thickness is 13 mm, length is 12 mtr
So the diameter is not 36mm but 36”. Is that right?

Before we can help you with this question we need to know;
What is the purpose of the chamber?
What temperature range must it withstand ?
Does the chamber contain anything that contacts the wall ?
 
The wall thickness is questionable. It appears it will probably deform, but, not fail.
 
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