Valid and Invalid interconnections

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The discussion centers on the validity of two electrical circuits based on Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) and Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL). The first circuit is deemed invalid because the total voltage drops differ between terminals, specifically 14V on one side and 16V on the other. Participants explore whether comparisons between other segments of the circuit also yield invalid results, concluding that only the outermost loop with four voltage sources is invalid. In contrast, the second circuit is valid despite having multiple voltage sources and a current source, as it satisfies KVL and KCL throughout. Understanding these principles clarifies why certain configurations are valid while others are not.
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My question is about the following circuit:
https://ibb.co/hWnb9v

According to the answer, it is an invalid circuit as the voltage drop on the left totals 14V and on the right totals 16V, and they have to be the same between any two terminals. I understand that it has to be so, but it raises many questions for me:

Could you also compare the bottom and top as well, so that would be 30V (8V, 10V, 12V) compared to 10V across the top (6V and 4V), so it would also be invalid from that comparison? And what about just the left side - there you have 6V and 8V next to each other. Is that also similarly invalid?

What about this circuit: https://ibb.co/g7fJNF I know it is valid, but there you have 3 different voltage sources next to each other with a current source, and they are considered as a whole but valid. I just don't fully understand the application of the concept, why in one scenario it is invalid and in another valid.

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I know the solution as the answer was posted online but I do not understand why it is so in one instance but not another.
 
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marsupial said:
Could you also compare the bottom and top as well, so that would be 30V (8V, 10V, 12V) compared to 10V across the top (6V and 4V), so it would also be invalid from that comparison? And what about just the left side - there you have 6V and 8V next to each other. Is that also similarly invalid?
Only the outermost loop containing four voltage sources (8V, 6V, 4V, 12V) makes this circuit invalid.
If the 8V source were 10V instead, the circuit would be valid.

To be valid, a circuit has to satisfy KVL in all the loops and KCL at all the nodes. Check this for both the circuits.
 
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