Van der Pauw sample preparation errors

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The discussion revolves around issues encountered during electrical resistivity tests using the Van der Pauw method on a round ceramic sample. Participants explore problems related to sample preparation and mechanical connections between the wires and the sample, focusing on the reliability of these connections and potential sources of error.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that infinite resistivity readings may be due to poor mechanical connections between the wires and the sample, possibly caused by oxide build-up or dirt in the contact area.
  • Another participant recommends increasing contact pressure and using a higher test voltage to potentially break through any oxide layers affecting the connections.
  • A participant shares their experience of resolving a contact issue by bending the ends of the wires to ensure better contact with the sample edge.
  • One participant notes that mechanical contacts between metallic wires and ceramic samples can be unreliable and proposes coating contact areas with conducting pastes like silver, gold, or platinum to improve reliability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that mechanical connection issues are a significant factor affecting the measurements, but there are differing opinions on the best methods to ensure reliable contacts and the materials to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could influence the reliability of electrical contacts, including mechanical stability, cleanliness of contact areas, and the use of different materials for coating. However, specific assumptions regarding the optimal conditions for each method remain unresolved.

Metallus
Hello,
I'm carrying out electrical resistivity tests with the Van der Pauw method on a round sample (2 mm thick disk) of a doped ceramic but sometimes I have issues in the mounting of the sample.

I'm using a 4-probe tube where each of the 4 wires contacts with the "corners" of the sample. To keep everything together, the sample is mounted on a sample holder made of insulation material that keeps the wire in contact with it. Here's a pic of the set-up, profile view and top view
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Sometimes when I attempt to pass current in any of the 8 configurations (reciprocal measurements and polarity inversion measurements), I get infinite resistivity. Is it due to the wires not being perfectly in contact with the sample? Why does it work in some configuration but give infinite resistivity in the other? And why sometimes the signal remains 0? Does it mean that it's short circuiting somewhere (as if the wires were touching)?

What am I doing wrong exactly? I made it work before, so I guess I'm just screwing up in the preparation of the sample somewhere, but I don't know where exactly, nor I know what could be the source of error. Let me know if you need additional details, as I am new to this technique.

Thanks
 
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Sure sounds like a poor mechanical connection between the wires and the sample. Perhaps an oxide build-up breaking electrical contact or a piece of dirt in the contact area. The next time it happens, try moving one wire at a time to localize the problem. Increased contact pressure between the wires and sample is likely to help. A higher test voltage may break through a thin oxide layer. If you are using a constant current excitation, redesign or replace it with a higher compliance voltage (open circuit voltage). Make sure both the sample and the electrical connectors to it are freshly cleaned.

Please let us know what you find / how you solve the problem.
 
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Tom.G said:
Sure sounds like a poor mechanical connection between the wires and the sample. Perhaps an oxide build-up breaking electrical contact or a piece of dirt in the contact area. The next time it happens, try moving one wire at a time to localize the problem. Increased contact pressure between the wires and sample is likely to help. A higher test voltage may break through a thin oxide layer. If you are using a constant current excitation, redesign or replace it with a higher compliance voltage (open circuit voltage). Make sure both the sample and the electrical connectors to it are freshly cleaned.

Please let us know what you find / how you solve the problem.
Yes, it was indeed a fault in the contact between the wire and the sample. One of the wire was loose (sliding easily in the hole of the sample holder and not properly contacting with the sample). I solved this issue by slightly bending the end of the wires inwards, so as to guarantee at least a contact on the edge
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Thanks for your input
 
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Pure mechanical contacts between metallic wires and ceramic samples are often unreliable. I generally coat the areas of the sample which finally make the contacts with the wires with thin stripes of either conducting silver, gold or platinum paste, depending on the temperature and atmosphere used during the measurements.
 

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