Variable AC (0 to 240) source how to take fixed DC (110 or 220)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the challenge of converting a variable AC source (0 to 240V) into fixed DC outputs (110VDC and 220VDC). Participants explore various methods, safety considerations, and equipment recommendations related to this conversion process.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a need for fixed DC outputs for testing components safely, citing difficulties with maintaining desired voltage levels using a variable source.
  • Another suggests purchasing separate fixed DC power supplies instead of attempting to convert the variable AC source.
  • Several participants question the power requirements and request more specifications to provide better assistance.
  • One participant mentions using an isolation transformer after a variac to rectify and filter the AC, emphasizing safety and the need for appropriate fuses for high voltage DC.
  • Another participant agrees with the isolation transformer approach, noting its role in reducing potential issues with DC premagnetization current.
  • There is a discussion about the safety implications of grounding rectified DC outputs and the importance of using isolation transformers to avoid hazards.
  • Some participants clarify the difference between a variac and a household lamp dimmer, indicating that the latter is not suitable for this application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of safety when converting AC to DC and the potential use of isolation transformers. However, there are competing views on the best approach to achieve the desired fixed DC outputs, with no consensus on a single solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specifications and requirements for the conversion process, highlighting the need for more detailed context to provide effective solutions. There are also concerns about the limitations of using a variac in conjunction with a bridge rectifier.

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sir,

i am looking for fixed DC (110VDC and 220VDC) from my variable AC source (0 to 220V).
please support me.

rajesh.p
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rajeshputta said:
fixed DC (110VDC and 220VDC) from my variable AC source (0 to 220V).
Buy separate fixed DC output sources.
 
How much power? How about some real specifications, and some ideas you might have had. What are you really trying to do. Some context makes it easier to come up with ideas.

At first glance, it seems difficult to get 110VDC from 0V AC, but I might be missing something.

Why do you expect us to do more work than you are willing to do. I already spent more time on it than you spent posting your question.
 
meBigGuy said:
How much power? How about some real specifications, and some ideas you might have had. What are you really trying to do. Some context makes it easier to come up with ideas.

At first glance, it seems difficult to get 110VDC from 0V AC, but I might be missing something.

Why do you expect us to do more work than you are willing to do. I already spent more time on it than you spent posting your question.

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thank you for your support on my topic,
equipment input supply 240V,50Hz,1ph, output 0 to 220VAC is variable dimmer source available, using this source i want produce fixed type at out put section 110,220VDC &3 to 5Amp.
here we have used rectifier bridge for make convert of AC to DC source,
i looking here need 110V and 220V dc it is for our safety to test the components those DC levels only.
(while i testing time i struggle to set the desire voltage, some times this variable nob get increase or decrees is happens, due to i facing failure our components at testing time)
i expecting any circuit is available for desire voltages select?
if available please help me.

rajesh.p
 
I've seen people put an isolation transformer after a variac and simply rectify and filter. Be sure to use fuses that are rated for HV DC. Common AC fuses arc badly when attempting to break DC.
 
Actually, Bystander nailed it. Buy two DC power supplies and switch between them. Are you trying to do something that won't provide?
 
Mike_In_Plano said:
I've seen people put an isolation transformer after a variac and simply rectify and filter.
The main reason they use isolation transformer is probably to eliminate/reduce potential problems with DC premagnetization current.
 
The isolation transformer is for safety. Given that an AC neutral ties back to ground, There's no means of attaching the rectified + or - DC to ground without either fireworks, or an isolation transformer. Folks who design offline power equipment regularly keep the transformer / variac combination upstream. I used to keep a 10 kW pair upstream with a breaker bar on the variac because my wrists and forearms weren't up to turning the dial.
 
Function is to "serve" and to "protect". Protection role/safety increase of isolation transforners is obvious, as already explained here. I was referring to their advantage in service with rectifier circuit topologies.
 
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rajeshputta said:
is variable dimmer source available,

Is that what you are using? or are you asking if one is available?

A Variac, also known as "Adjustable transformer" or "slider" , will work well for you with a rectifier
but an everyday household lamp dimmer will not..

I agree with others - you should buy an isolated power supply or use an isolation transformer.
Variac doesn't isolate the neutral wire and folks get into trouble using one with a bridge . In a US system, earthing either side of the DC bypasses half the bridge.. making sparks and smoke.
 

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