Variation of Parameters to solve a second order ODE

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The discussion focuses on solving a second-order ordinary differential equation using the method of variation of parameters. The user has correctly identified the general solution to the homogeneous equation as y = C1cos3t + C2sin3t but struggles with substituting exponential forms into the equations for u1' and u2'. Complications arise from the resulting expressions involving complex exponentials, which do not match the desired solution format. A key insight is provided that emphasizes using trigonometric forms instead of exponential ones, which simplifies the process. The user acknowledges this correction and plans to attempt the solution again.
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Homework Statement


The question I am working on is the one in the file attached.

Homework Equations


y = u1y1 + u2y2 :

u1'y1 + u2'y2 = 0
u1'y1' + u2'y2' = g(t)

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I have got part (i) completed, with y1 = e3it and y2 = e-3it. This gives a general solution to the homogeneous equation to be y = C1cos3t + C2sin3t.
For part (ii) I know that for variation of parameters you need to substitute y1 and y2 and their derivatives into the above system of equations to solve for u1' and u2', then integrate these to find u1 and u2, from which you can get the desired solution of
y = yp + yh
But I find that when I try to do that by substituting y1 = e3it and y2 = e-3it I just end up with very complicated expressions involving lots of e's and i's which the desired solution does not contain. I know it involves combining the information about the general soln from (i) with the method I have described, but I just don't know how to make it work. Any help would be appreciated, thank you in advance!
 

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I just end up with very complicated expressions involving lots of e's and i's which the desired solution does not contain
So the thing to do is avoid these exponential ##y## and take the trigonometric ##y## that you see in front of you when you write ##y = C_1\cos 3t + C_2\sin3t\ ## !

http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/VariationofParameters.aspx
 
Bonnie said:

Homework Statement


The question I am working on is the one in the file attached.

Homework Equations


y = u1y1 + u2y2 :

u1'y1 + u2'y2 = 0
u1'y1' + u2'y2' = g(t)

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I have got part (i) completed, with y1 = e3it and y2 = e-3it. This gives a general solution to the homogeneous equation to be y = C1cos3t + C2sin3t.
For part (ii) I know that for variation of parameters you need to substitute y1 and y2 and their derivatives into the above system of equations to solve for u1' and u2', then integrate these to find u1 and u2, from which you can get the desired solution of
y = yp + yh
But I find that when I try to do that by substituting y1 = e3it and y2 = e-3it I just end up with very complicated expressions involving lots of e's and i's which the desired solution does not contain. I know it involves combining the information about the general soln from (i) with the method I have described, but I just don't know how to make it work. Any help would be appreciated, thank you in advance!
Have you forgotten that ##e^{\pm i \theta} = \cos \theta \pm i \sin \theta \,?##
 
Ray Vickson said:
Have you forgotten that ##e^{\pm i \theta} = \cos \theta \pm i \sin \theta \,?##
Yes I had, thank you. I'll have another try!
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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