Vector calculus - Divergence Theorem

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The discussion centers on evaluating the integral of the vector field A = (x, y, z)(x^2 + y^2 + z^2) over a spherical surface using the Divergence Theorem. Participants explore the conversion between Cartesian and spherical coordinates, noting that while A is given in Cartesian form, expressing it in spherical coordinates may simplify the integration due to symmetry. There is some confusion regarding the expression A = r^3, with clarification needed on the correct interpretation of A in both coordinate systems. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards using spherical coordinates for the evaluation due to the nature of the surface involved. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding coordinate transformations in vector calculus.
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Homework Statement




Find \int_{s} \vec{A} \cdot d\vec{a} given \vec{A} = ( x\hat{i} + y\hat{j} + z\hat{k} ) ( x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ) and the surface S is defined by the sphere R^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 directly and by Gauss's theorem.

Homework Equations



\int_{s} \vec{A} \cdot d\vec{a} = \int_{V} \nabla \cdot \vec{A} da = \int\int\int \frac{1}{r^2} \frac{\partial}{\partial r}(r^2 A_{r}) r^2 \sin\theta dr d\theta d\phi = \int\int\int \frac{\partial}{\partial r}(r^2 A_{r}) \sin\theta dr d\theta d\phi = 4 \pi R^5


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Given the answer, I was able to work backwards using limits of integration of 0 to 2pi for phi, 0 to pi for theta and 0 to R on r to find out that A = r^3. Now, the question I have is how can I show that A = r^3 given the A in cartesian coordinates? Since r=\sqrt{x^2 + y^2 + z^2} its clear that A=r^2(x\hat{i} + y\hat{j} + z\hat{k}) but to call the vector valued term r is not agreeing with me. Obviously, since the surface is a sphere, I thought it would be easier to use spherical coordinates...

Edit: Using cartesian coordinates I can find \nabla \cdot \vec{A} = 5(x^2 + y^2 + z^2) = 5r^2 but using the formula given for spherical coordinates, I would need to show A = r^3 to do a full solution in spherical.
 
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What do you mean "A= r3"? What is A? There is no A in the statement of the problem.
 
A is given, it is the vector. It's in the first line... Of course, to solve for A in spherical I worked backwards from the answer (I needed an R^5 in the final answer, and the divergence in spherical gives me an integral of a partial of r^2 * A, so obviously r^2 * A needs to have a 5th power, thus A = r^3, working it through, it does come out correctly).

When I try to convert the given A into spherical directly, I can only get as far as \vec{A} = r^2(x\hat{i}+y\hat{j}+z\hat{k})

Another question I have is whether it would be easier to show it directly in cartesian or spherical...I'm leaning towards cartesian because A is given in cartesian.
 
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A = r^3

As Halls pointed out, that's not right.

The conversion from cartesian to spherical, and vice versa, should be found in any vector calculus text.

(or try, http://www.math.montana.edu/frankw/ccp/multiworld/multipleIVP/spherical/body.htm )

Another question I have is whether it would be easier to show it directly in cartesian or spherical...I'm leaning towards cartesian because A is given in cartesian.

The integral \int_{s} \vec{A} \cdot d\vec{a} over x^2 + y^2 + z^2=R^2 should be easier to evaluate in spherical coordinates because of the symmetry (ie, you're integrating over a sphere).
 
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