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The discussion revolves around vector field calculations in the x and y plane, specifically focusing on the relationship between two vectors, denoted as barX and barY. Participants are exploring how to determine the angle between these vectors given their magnitudes and components.

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  • Participants are attempting to find the angle between two vectors using the dot product and the relationship between their components. Questions are raised regarding the implications of a zero dot product and how it affects the angle calculation. There is also a reference to a formula involving the cosine of the angle derived from the dot product.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing formulas and questioning the validity of their results. Some express confusion about the implications of a zero dot product, while others note that this suggests the vectors are perpendicular. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants are still exploring the concepts involved.

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Given 2 vectors, say x and y with a relationship of barXx-barYy (barX =1,0,0 and barY=0,1,0) calculations for the vector field in x and y plane are:
Magnitude = sqrt(x2+y2)
tails of vectors begin at input points (IE: if I choose 1,0 or 0,-1 etc) and the magnitudes are calcluated from these values with the equation above.
Question: how to find the angle of the vectors? If I use ones and zeros and the BarX dot BarYCos theta how to get theta? also barXdot BarY is zero making the whole thing zero?
 
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bookdad said:
Given 2 vectors, say x and y with a relationship of barXx-barYy (barX =1,0,0 and barY=0,1,0) calculations for the vector field in x and y plane are:
Magnitude = sqrt(x2+y2)
tails of vectors begin at input points (IE: if I choose 1,0 or 0,-1 etc) and the magnitudes are calcluated from these values with the equation above.
Question: how to find the angle of the vectors? If I use ones and zeros and the BarX dot BarYCos theta how to get theta? also barXdot BarY is zero making the whole thing zero?

Does this reference help?

http://www.algebralab.org/lessons/lesson.aspx?file=Trigonometry_TrigVectorDotProd.xml

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this gives the formula cos theta = barV dot bar U / the magnitudes of vu. as mentioned before this returns a value of zero whether the y component or the x component is zero. so this means each vector with a zero Y component has a 90 degree vector and this cannot be.
 
bookdad said:
this gives the formula cos theta = barV dot bar U / the magnitudes of vu. as mentioned before this returns a value of zero whether the y component or the x component is zero. so this means each vector with a zero Y component has a 90 degree vector and this cannot be.
Since the two vectors are obviously perpendicular, their dot product is zero, and hence the angle between them is 90 degrees.

One way that the dot product of two vectors is defined is:
[tex]\vec{u} \cdot \vec{v} = |\vec{u}||\vec{v}| \cos(\theta)[/tex]

You can solve this equation for cos(theta) like so:
[tex]\cos(\theta) = \frac{\vec{u} \cdot \vec{v}}{|\vec{u}||\vec{v}| }[/tex]
 

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