Vector Spaces & Subspaces: Proving Addition Closure

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The discussion revolves around proving the closure of addition in vector spaces and subspaces, specifically focusing on the properties that define a subspace. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin the problem related to vector spaces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definition of a subspace and the necessary conditions it must satisfy. The original poster attempts to verify these conditions based on their notes, while others question the understanding of the properties involved, particularly regarding the transpose of matrices.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on the definitions and conditions that need to be checked. There is a recognition of the need for clarity on the properties of matrices, and a counterexample is suggested to illustrate a point of confusion.

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There is an indication that the original poster may lack foundational knowledge about subspaces and the relevant mathematical symbols, which could impact their ability to engage with the problem effectively.

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i don't even know how to start. lol.
 
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Are you sure you are in the right class then? If you honestly have "no idea where to start", if you don't know what a "subspace" is, what conditions a subspace must satisfy, or what the various symbols mean, you need more help than we can give. Talk to your teacher about this.
 
Start by telling us the definition of a subspace. Then tell us what the notation in (a) means. Once you have done that, you shouldn't need us to tell you where to begin. The next step (the first step really) is obviously to check if W satisfies the conditions in the definition of a subspace of V.
 
ok so i refreshed my memory a little, by looking at my notes. I've tried part (a), and got the following:
condition (0) => A = [0 0;0 0] and A(Transpose) = [0 0;0 0], so satisfied
condition(1) => A = [ a1 b1; c1 d1] and B = [ a2 b2; c2 d2]. A(Tran) + B(tran) must be equal to (A+B)(tran). since they are square, A(tran)= A, therefore satisfying condition (1)

condition (2) => (c)*A must be equal to (c)*A(tran), and since A is square, they are equal, so condition 2 is satisfied.

since all conditions are satisfied that means that W is a subspace of the Vectore Space Vis that right?
 
What you call condition(1) actually says that if A and B are in W, then so is A+B. So you need to show that for all A,B in W, (A+B)^T=A+B. It's not true that A^T=A for all square matrices A. You should be able to find a counterexample of that very easily.
 

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