Vector & Square Root Question for GCSE Maths

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The discussion revolves around two main topics: a vector problem related to a regular hexagon and simplifying square roots, specifically the square root of 2704. Participants express confusion regarding the vector question and seek clarification on the underlying concepts, while also exploring methods for simplifying square roots.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants attempt to understand the properties of vectors, particularly in relation to a regular hexagon, and question how to prove relationships between distances and angles. There are also discussions on methods for simplifying square roots, including prime factorization and calculator use.

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Some participants have provided hints and suggestions for both the vector and square root problems, indicating possible approaches without reaching a consensus. The conversation includes various interpretations and methods, with ongoing exploration of the concepts involved.

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Participants note the challenge of understanding the vector question and the complexity of simplifying square roots, with some suggesting the use of calculators or prime factorization as potential methods. The nature of the regular hexagon is also under discussion, impacting the interpretation of the vector problem.

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I have attached a copy of a vector question which i cannot do, i do not even understand what the question is asking can someone help?

On a different note i seem to have a lot of trouble with simplifying square roots for example what is the square root of 2704/ is there any way to find the root easily?

Thanks
 

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The vector question:

Remember that the defining parts of a vector are its length and direction. You can produce a vector of the same length and direction (but not position) as BC using some combination of AB and CD. Hint: How does the distance from A to the midpoint compare to the distance from B to C? What about the angles? Can you prove it?

The roots question:

I use a calculator, to be honest. But, in a pinch, I would decompose the number into prime factors like so:

sqrt(2704) = sqrt(2*2*2*2*13*13) = sqrt(2^4 * 13^2) = 4*13 = 52

Finding the factors is a bit time consuming though.
 
tomtomtom1 said:
On a different note i seem to have a lot of trouble with simplifying square roots for example what is the square root of 2704/ is there any way to find the root easily?

Thanks
Factor the 2704 into its lowest factors. Start with 2.

Chet
 
tomtomtom1 said:
I have attached a copy of a vector question which i cannot do, i do not even understand what the question is asking can someone help?
It's a regular hexagon. What does that tell you about the lengths of the sides?

On a different note i seem to have a lot of trouble with simplifying square roots for example what is the square root of 2704/ is there any way to find the root easily?
How about a calculator? If you want a manual method, you could start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methods_of_computing_square_roots
 
Nick O said:
I would decompose the number into prime factors like so:

sqrt(2704) = sqrt(2*2*2*2*13*13) = sqrt(2^4 * 13^2) = 4*13 = 52

Finding the factors is a bit time consuming though.
It can be done in the head like this:
2704 = 2700+4 = 4*(27*25+1) = 4*((26+1)(26-1)+1) = 4*((262-12)+1)...
 
Of course, the quick and lazy way to factor a number is with a package such as Maxima or GNU Octave:

Code:
(%i1) factor(2704);

                                     4   2
(%o1)                               2  13
 
Nick O said:
The vector question:

Remember that the defining parts of a vector are its length and direction. You can produce a vector of the same length and direction (but not position) as BC using some combination of AB and CD. Hint: How does the distance from A to the midpoint compare to the distance from B to C? What about the angles? Can you prove it?

The roots question:

I use a calculator, to be honest. But, in a pinch, I would decompose the number into prime factors like so:

sqrt(2704) = sqrt(2*2*2*2*13*13) = sqrt(2^4 * 13^2) = 4*13 = 52

Finding the factors is a bit time consuming though.


I am trying to prove that the distance from A to the mid point is equal to the midpoint to any other corner, what i have done is found the angles at the midpoint (360/6) to get 60 degrees, i have alos found the interior angles which is 120 degrees and the exterior angles which are 60 degrees but i cannot prove the length of the mid point is equal to the midpoint to all other points?

see attached.
 

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Would it help to note that the triangles inside are all equiangular, and therefore equilateral? Every side of every triangle has the same length.

Edit: If we want to prove this rigorously, I would start with the fact that |FC| = 2|AB| (given), therefore |FO| = |AB|. But, I doubt that this is necessary as long as you have a convincing (and correct!) argument.
 
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tomtomtom1 said:
I am trying to prove that the distance from A to the mid point is equal to the midpoint to any other corner,
The question asks you to relate the length of one side to the lengths of two other sides. Just consider the definition of a regular polygon, and the answer should be obvious.
 
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tms said:
The question asks you to relate the length of one side to the lengths of two other sides. Just consider the definition of a regular polygon, and the answer should be obvious.

But let's pretend that it isn't a regular hexagon, this makes the question more interesting. Essentially you must tackle this like a geometry problem, start from what you know and fill in anything you can add with geometric reasoning. Eventually you will find a way forward.
 

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