Velocity of Ball on a Decline Ramp

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The problem involves a ball released from rest on a ramp, with the objective of determining its landing position after rolling off the ramp. The context includes concepts from kinematics and energy conservation, specifically relating to the ball's motion down a decline and its subsequent trajectory to the ground.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy principles to find the ball's velocity at the end of the ramp. They also mention momentum conservation and the relationship between potential and kinetic energy. Questions arise regarding the necessity of the mass of the ball and the implications of its absence on calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different physical principles that could apply to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding energy conservation, but there is no consensus on how to proceed without the mass of the ball.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of certain variables, such as the mass of the ball, which complicates their calculations. The problem setup includes specific measurements and constraints that may affect their approach.

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My physics teacher gave us this challenge question as homework, and basically the entire class is struggling with it. Guidance would be much appreciated.
A ball is released, with an initial velocity of 0, on a 1 m long ramp. The ramp is set up on a table, approximately .75 m above the ground, and we have to figure out where the ball will land on the floor. Here are all of the known values we have:

Initial Velocity of ball = 0 m/s
Length of Ramp: 1 m
Angle of Ramp Relative to the Table: 13o
Max Height of the Ramp: 22 cm
Vertical Distance from the Floor to the Table: 75 cm

Variables I am trying to find:
?? = Total Velocity of the Ball at the end of the ramp
?? = Vertical and Horizontal Velocities of the Ball at the end of the ramp
?? = Time it takes for the Ball to move all the way down the ramp
?? = How far away the ball would land away from the table (The system is set up so that the ball would not bounce off the table after falling off the ramp, it would go directly to the floor)




My partner and I tried many equations, but in all of them we were missing key variables, such as the mass of the ball.



As I said above, we tried many things, but in the end we just ended up needing another variable that was not given to us.
 
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Have you learned conservation of energy principles (particularly [tex]mgh=\frac{1}{2}mv^{2}[/tex]) yet? You can use that to solve for the velocity of the ball.
 
A good starting point will be to consider that momentum is conserved. That means that potential energy at the start = kinetic energy at the end.

Potential energy = mgh, kinetic energy = 0.5*m*v^2
 
Is the "m" in those equations the mass? Because if so, we were not given the mass, so I would have to make an estimate.
 

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