Verification of Ampere-Maxwell Law

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The forum discussion focuses on verifying the integral form of Maxwell's equation in the context of a current-carrying wire and a point charge. The equation in question is $$\oint_{c} \vec B \cdot d \vec s = \int_{s}( \mu_{o} \vec J + \epsilon_{o} \mu_{o} \frac {\partial \vec E} {\partial t}) \cdot d \vec A$$. The user successfully derives the relationship between the magnetic field and electric field contributions, ultimately confirming that both sides of the equation balance under the assumption that the radius of the hole (R) is much smaller than the distance to the charge (r). The discussion also raises questions about the assumptions made and the possibility of alternative approaches to the problem.

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Homework Statement


A current I flows along a wire toward a point charge, causing the charge to increase with time. Consider a spherical surface S centred at the charge, with a tiny hole where the wire is – see figure below. The circumference C of this hole is the boundary of the surface S. Verify that the integral form of Maxwell’s equation

$$\oint_{c} \vec B \cdot d \vec s = \int_{s}( \mu_{o} \vec J + \epsilon_{o} \mu_{o} \frac {\partial \vec E} {\partial t}) \cdot d \vec A $$

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Homework Equations


$$B_{wire} = \frac {\mu_{o} I} {4 \pi R} (cos \theta_{1} - cos \theta_{2})$$R is the radius of the small hole.

$$E = \frac {k_{e} q} {r^2}$$r is the distance to the small hole from the built up charge.

The Attempt at a Solution


Considering that the magnetic field from the current carrying wire travels in a circular path around the wire, ##\vec B \cdot d \vec s## becomes ##B ds##. The left hand integral would then just be BC. The time derivative of ##\vec E## becomes ##k_{e} I/r^2## and is parallel to the normal to the area ##d \vec A##. Plugging all of this into the above equations leaves

$$\frac {\mu_{o} I} {4 \pi R} C (cos \theta_{1} - cos \theta_{2}) = (\mu_{o} J + \mu_{o} \epsilon_{o} \frac {k_{e} I} {r^2})A$$ The area of the small hole is ##A = \pi R^2##.

$$\frac {\mu_{o} I} {4 \pi R} C (cos \theta_{1} - cos \theta_{2}) = \mu_{o} I + \mu_{o} \epsilon_{o} \frac {k_{e} I} {r^2} \pi R^2$$ For a "tiny" hole, the value R is much less than r. So, ##\theta_{1} \approx 0## and ##\theta_{2} \approx 180##. We then have

$$\frac {\mu_{o} I} {4 \pi R} C (1-(-1)) = \mu_{o} I + \mu_{o} \epsilon_{o} \frac {k_{e} I} {r^2} \pi R^2$$

$$\frac {\mu_{o} I C} {2 \pi R} = \mu_{o} I + \mu_{o} \epsilon_{o} \frac {k_{e} I} {r^2} \pi R^2$$

$$\frac {\mu_{o} I C} {2 \pi R} = \mu_{o} I + \mu_{o} \epsilon_{o} \frac {I} {4 \pi \epsilon_{o} r^2} \pi R^2$$ The circumference C is just ##2 \pi R## so this becomes

$$\mu_{o} I = \mu_{o} I + \mu_{o} \frac {I} {4 r^2} R^2$$ Once again using the approximation that R is much less than r, we find that the second term ##\approx 0## and that both sides are equal. My question is, is there a way to solve this problem without using the above approximations and assumptions? Or even without the use of a formula for the magnetic field from the wire?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Wait a minute. Your figure shows that ##S## is the surface of the large sphere of radius ##R## minus the area of the small circle of circumference ##C##. That's fine. But if that's the case, what is the first integral on the right side, namely ## \int_{s} \mu_0 \vec J \cdot d \vec A~?## Isn't it zero because ##\vec J## is zero everywhere on the surface ##S## that you have chosen? Also, can you explain what ##\theta_1## and ##\theta_2## are?
 
Yeah I was confused about the surface as I didn't find the question clear on that. If that's the case then I'll have to go over the electric flux integral again. The angles ##\theta_{1}## and ##\theta_{2}## are between the axis of the wire and the vector from the wire pointing to any point on the circumference C. In this case I would get

$$\frac {\mu_{o} I C} {2 \pi R} = \mu_{o} \epsilon_{o} \frac {k_{e} I} {r^2} (4 \pi r^2 - \pi R^2)$$

$$\frac {\mu_{o} I 2 \pi R} {2 \pi R} = \mu_{o} \epsilon_{o} \frac {I} {4 \pi \epsilon_{o} r^2} (4 \pi r^2 - \pi R^2)$$

$$\mu_{o} I = \mu_{o} \frac {I} {4 \pi r^2} (4 \pi r^2 - \pi R^2)$$

$$\mu_{o} I = \mu_{o} {I} (1 - \frac { R^2} {4 r^2})$$ And again saying that R is small compared to r, the second term ##\approx 0##. Does this make sense? Is there another way to approach the problem?
 
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