Verifying Solutions of de Broglie Form of Schr. Eqn

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The discussion revolves around verifying whether two given wave functions, \(\psi_1 (x,t) = M_1 e^{kx-\omega t}\) and \(\psi_2 (x,t) = M_2 e^{i(kx-\omega t)}\), satisfy the de Broglie form of the Schrödinger equation. Participants are examining the differentiation of these wave functions and their implications in relation to the equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the correctness of the differentiation performed on the wave functions and whether the resulting equations fulfill the requirements of the Schrödinger equation. There is an exploration of the relationship between the derived equations and the de Broglie relation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants affirming the correctness of the differentiation while others question the original poster's assertion that the wave functions do not satisfy the equation. There is a focus on simplifying the equations to check for equality and the implications of the de Broglie relation.

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Participants are navigating the task of demonstrating that the two wave functions do not yield the same results when substituted into the Schrödinger equation, which is a requirement for their validity. The conversation reflects a potential misunderstanding of the relationship between the derived equations and the de Broglie relation.

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I am to show that neither of the two wave functions [tex]\psi_1 (x,t) = M_1 e^{kx-\omega t}[/tex] and [tex]\psi_2 (x,t) = M_2 e^{i(kx-\omega t)}[/tex] solve the de Broglie form of Schr. Eqn:

[tex]-\frac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \frac{\partial ^2 \psi}{\partial x^2}=i \hbar \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial t}[/tex]

for the first wave, i got:

[tex]-\frac{\hbar ^2}{2m} M_1 k^2 e^{kx-wt}=-i \omega \hbar M_1 e^{kx-\omega t}[/tex]

for the second wave, i got:
[tex]\frac{\hbar ^2}{2m} M_2 k^2 e^{i(kx-\omega t)}= \omega \hbar M_2 e^{i(kx-\omega t)}[/tex]

i was just wondering if I did these differentiation correct.
 
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Yes, you did the differentiations correctly. I am confused by your task to show that neither function satisfies the Schrödinger equation when in fact both do as you have just shown
 
well, all I have to do is to show that they are not equal. Because if i simplify both of those equations, do not get the de Broglie relation of: [tex]\hbar \omega = \frac{\hbar ^2 k^2}{2m}[/tex]
 
What do you mean...? You do get the deBroglie relation

[tex]p=\hbar k[/tex]

and so [tex]E=\frac{p^{2}}{2m}[/tex]

Daniel.
 

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