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The discussion centers around finding the volume of a region defined by the line y = -2x + 4, the x-axis, and the vertical line x = 1, when revolved about the line x = 1. Participants are exploring the geometric interpretation of the region and the appropriate method for calculating the volume.

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  • Participants discuss the shape of the solid formed by the revolution, with some suggesting it resembles a frustum of a cone rather than a full cone. There are questions regarding the correct interpretation of the problem statement, particularly whether the region is revolved about the line x = 1 or the y-axis.

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Some participants have provided clarifications and corrections regarding the setup of the problem and the calculations involved. There is acknowledgment of mistakes made in the original calculations, but also recognition that the final answer may still be correct. The discussion remains open with various interpretations being explored.

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Participants note that the region bounded by the given lines and the x-axis is crucial for determining the volume, and there is some confusion about the limits of integration and the nature of the solid formed. The original poster's assumptions about the shape and the method of volume calculation are under scrutiny.

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Find the volume between y=-2x + 4, x-axis, x=1, about the line x=1. Check my work? :)

Hi, everyone.

1. Find the volume of the region between y= -2x + 4, x-axis, x=1, about the line x=1.

I tried to post this before, but I don't think it went through!

2. Alright, so I first drew it out, and the shape is a cone.
Since it revolves around a y-axis, the limits should be also in terms of y.
Every cross-section is a circle.

So this is how I wrote it out:

∫0 to 4 of ∏[((-y/2) + 1)^2]dy

∫0 to 4 of ∏[(y^2/4) -y + 1]

= 1/4 * (y^3)/3) - (y^2)/2) + x |0 to 4

= ((y^3)/12) - 1/2(y^2) + x |0 to 4

= ((4)^3)/3 - 1/2(4)^2 + 4 -(0)

= 64/12 - 8 + 4

= 1.33 or 4/3

So... Is that right?
Thank you so much for checking my work! :)
 
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Lo.Lee.Ta. said:
Hi, everyone.

1. Find the volume of the region between y= -2x + 4, x-axis, x=1, about the line x=1.

I tried to post this before, but I don't think it went through!

2. Alright, so I first drew it out, and the shape is a cone.
Since it revolves around a y-axis, the limits should be also in terms of y.
Every cross-section is a circle.
What is the exact problem statement? What you have is confusing. Is the region bounded by y = -2x + 4, the x-axis, and the line x = 1 revolved about some line? You don't mention the word "revolved" in your problem statement.

Is the region revolved about the line x = 1 or about the y-axis (the line x = 0)?
Lo.Lee.Ta. said:
So this is how I wrote it out:

∫0 to 4 of ∏[((-y/2) + 1)^2]dy

∫0 to 4 of ∏[(y^2/4) -y + 1]

= 1/4 * (y^3)/3) - (y^2)/2) + x |0 to 4

= ((y^3)/12) - 1/2(y^2) + x |0 to 4

= ((4)^3)/3 - 1/2(4)^2 + 4 -(0)

= 64/12 - 8 + 4

= 1.33 or 4/3

So... Is that right?
Thank you so much for checking my work! :)
 


Yes, it is revolved about the line x=1.

Sorry about the confusion.
 


Lo.Lee.Ta. said:
Hi, everyone.

1. Find the volume of the region between y= -2x + 4, x-axis, x=1, about the line x=1.
y= -2x+ 4= 0 (crossing the x-axis) when x= 2 so x ranges from 1 to 2.
It is NOT a cone, it is "frustrum" of a cone, not including the "point".

I tried to post this before, but I don't think it went through!

2. Alright, so I first drew it out, and the shape is a cone.
Since it revolves around a y-axis, the limits should be also in terms of y.
You mean around a line parallel to the x-axis.

Every cross-section is a circle.
Yes, having radius x- 1. Since y= -2x+ 4, 2x= 4- y, x= 2- y/2 and x- 1= 2- y/2- 1= 1- y/2. The area of such a circle is [itex]\pi(1- y/2)^2[itex]and taking its thickness to be "dy", its volume is [tex]\pi(1- y/2)^2dy= \pi (1- y+ y^2/4)dy[tex].<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> So this is how I wrote it out:<br /> <br /> ∫0 to 4 of ∏[((-y/2) + 1)^2]dy<br /> <br /> ∫0 to 4 of ∏[(y^2/4) -y + 1] </div> </div> </blockquote> You forgot the "dy" but no matter.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> = 1/4 * (y^3)/3) - (y^2)/2) + x |0 to 4<br /> <br /> = ((y^3)/12) - 1/2(y^2) + x |0 to 4 </div> </div> </blockquote>and you really mean "y", not "x" there. But again, you put y= 4 into that so, no matter!<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> = ((4)^3)/3 - 1/2(4)^2 + 4 -(0) </div> </div> </blockquote>And here, you should have "(4)^3/12" not "(4)^3/3"<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> = 64/12 - 8 + 4 </div> </div> </blockquote>64/12= 16/3 so this is 16/3- 24/3+ 12/3= (26- 24)/3= 4/3.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> = 1.33 or 4/3<br /> <br /> So... Is that right? <br /> Thank you so much for checking my work! :) </div> </div> </blockquote> Yes, that looks good to me. The fact that it is only a part of a cone is not relevant.[/tex][/tex][/itex][/itex]
 


Thanks for checking it! :)

I made a lot of mistakes in my work, but I managed to get the right answer! I'll have to fix those!
 

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