Very simple series circuit question

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The discussion revolves around understanding a series circuit in the context of a specific circuit diagram involving resistors. Participants are exploring the characteristics of series and parallel circuits, particularly how to differentiate between them based on current flow and circuit configuration.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to clarify why certain sections of the circuit are treated as series or parallel. Questions arise about the implications of an open switch on circuit behavior and how to identify series versus parallel configurations based on current flow.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of series and parallel circuits. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions under which resistors are considered in series or parallel, but there is still uncertainty about the overall circuit configuration and how to apply these concepts consistently.

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Participants express a desire for deeper understanding of circuit analysis, particularly in the context of standardized testing scenarios like the SAT II physics exam. There is a mention of specific circuit elements and their arrangement, which may influence the interpretation of the circuit's behavior.

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Homework Equations



I = V/R, R = R1+R2+R3+...

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2R+R=3R

V/3R

this is an SAT II physics practice question, i just want to grasp this concept so I am asking for an explanation, i.e. why this is a series circuit (or not?)

oh and how do i know to treat the section with the 1/2 R's as a parallel circuit and not the entire right side? don't they both have parallel resistors? how do i differentiate for circuits in general?
 
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Because if S1 is left open then only a closed series circuit with V1R,S2 and 2R is formed.
 
rock.freak667 said:
Because if S1 is left open then only a closed series circuit with V1R,S2 and 2R is formed.

so that means i add the 2R and the R to get 3R, hence V/3R, and that the right side is a series circuit? why is it a series circuit if they are parallel to each other? yet the 1/2 R's on the left side are treated as parallel?
 
crazybandit said:
so that means i add the 2R and the R to get 3R, hence V/3R, and that the right side is a series circuit? why is it a series circuit if they are parallel to each other? yet the 1/2 R's on the left side are treated as parallel?

It is only because S1 is left open that you can only consider the right side of the circuit only.

Sure the two R/2 resistors are in parallel but since S1 is left open, no current flows through it, so you don't need to consider it.

Only consider where the current is flowing through. Which happens to be through R and 2R since S2 is closed.
 
rock.freak667 said:
It is only because S1 is left open that you can only consider the right side of the circuit only.

Sure the two R/2 resistors are in parallel but since S1 is left open, no current flows through it, so you don't need to consider it.

Only consider where the current is flowing through. Which happens to be through R and 2R since S2 is closed.

i know this, but never mind the question, how do i differentiate between a series and a parallel circuit? going back to the question, all the resistors are "parallel" to each other so how can i tell?
 
crazybandit said:
i know this, but never mind the question, how do i differentiate between a series and a parallel circuit? going back to the question, all the resistors are "parallel" to each other so how can i tell?

If the same current passes through two resistors, then they are in series. If the current splits, then they are in parallel. I believe that is how it works, though I am not the best at circuit questions.
 
rock.freak667 said:
If the same current passes through two resistors, then they are in series. If the current splits, then they are in parallel. I believe that is how it works, though I am not the best at circuit questions.

oh ok, sidenote have you taken the SAT II physics?
 
crazybandit said:
oh ok, sidenote have you taken the SAT II physics?

Nope. Only GCE A level physics a few years ago.
 

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