Vibrational cooling of a molecule

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and mechanisms of vibrational cooling in molecules, particularly in the context of non-optical methods such as buffer gas cooling and supersonic expansion. Participants explore the differences in cooling translational, rotational, and vibrational degrees of freedom, as well as the implications for achieving thermal equilibrium.

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  • One participant questions whether the inability of non-optical methods to cool vibrational motion is due to the higher energy gaps between vibrational levels, suggesting that significant energy removal in a single collision is unlikely.
  • Another participant explains that collisions can convert translational energy into vibrational energy, leading to a Boltzmann distribution for vibrational states, but notes that cooling translational degrees of freedom does not provide a source for vibrational excitation.
  • It is mentioned that excited vibrational states decay slowly due to spontaneous emission, which may hinder the establishment of a Boltzmann distribution in vibrational levels after translational cooling.
  • A participant raises a parallel question regarding rotational levels, inquiring if similar issues exist for achieving thermal equilibrium in rotational motion during buffer gas cooling.
  • One participant highlights that energy splitting for rotational levels is lower, making it easier for collisions to facilitate thermalization, and notes that supersonic expansion can effectively cool rotational states.
  • There is uncertainty expressed about the dominant cooling mechanism for vibrational states at supersonic beam temperatures, with spontaneous emission suggested as a limiting factor.
  • Participants discuss the practical implications of cooling rates and the challenges of repumping vibrational versus rotational states, emphasizing the time constraints in experimental setups.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms and efficiency of vibrational cooling compared to rotational cooling, with no consensus reached on the dominant factors influencing these processes.

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Participants acknowledge limitations in understanding the cooling rates and mechanisms, particularly regarding the interplay between collisions and spontaneous emission, as well as the time required for thermalization in experimental conditions.

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This discussion may be of interest to researchers and students in the fields of molecular physics, physical chemistry, and experimental methods in cooling techniques.

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Hello! I understand that many of the non-optical methods used to cool down degrees of freedom in a molecule (e.g. buffer gas cooling, supersonic expansion) are able to cool down translational and rotational, but not vibrational motion. Is this because the gap between vibrational levels is much higher, so, for example in a buffer gas, one would need to get rid of all that energy with just one collision, which is highly unlikely? However, mathematically, shouldn't we still expect a Boltzmann distribution of vibrational levels, too, regardless of their spacing (i.e. they should thermalize with the buffer gas)? Can someone help me understand this issue (if it is indeed an issue) with vibrational cooling? Thank you!
 
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With hot molecules, molecule-molecule collisions turn translational energy into vibrational energy by exciting the molecules into higher vibrational states. This results in a Boltzmann distribution for vibrational state occupancy. If you suddenly cool the translational degrees of freedom, then there will be no source of vibrational excitation. Excited vibrational levels of the ground electronic state decay to lower vibrational states due to electric quadrupole-allowed spontaneous emission on a timescale of 10-100ms lifetime (pretty darn slow). This is why translational cooling =/= vibrational cooling. It takes time for the vibrational levels to settle into a Boltzmann distribution, often longer than you can keep your species trapped.
 
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Twigg said:
With hot molecules, molecule-molecule collisions turn translational energy into vibrational energy by exciting the molecules into higher vibrational states. This results in a Boltzmann distribution for vibrational state occupancy. If you suddenly cool the translational degrees of freedom, then there will be no source of vibrational excitation. Excited vibrational levels of the ground electronic state decay to lower vibrational states due to electric quadrupole-allowed spontaneous emission on a timescale of 10-100ms lifetime (pretty darn slow). This is why translational cooling =/= vibrational cooling. It takes time for the vibrational levels to settle into a Boltzmann distribution, often longer than you can keep your species trapped.
Thank you! How about rotational levels? If I am to buffer gas cool the molecules, will I have the same problem i.e. the rotational motion will not be Boltzmann distributed at the same temperature as the translation motion and it will take a long time (probably even longer than vibrational case, as the lifetimes are longer) for the rotational motion to reach thermal equilibrium?

And why does supersonic expansion lead to rotational cooling, but not vibrational?
 
Sorry for messy reply. Let me know if anything unclear. Energy splitting is much lower for rotational levels, so its easier for collisions to cause diabatic excitations between rotational states, allowing thermalization. Even at supersonic cool temperatures rotational states thermalize quickly.

Regarding my last post, in hindsight I'm actually not sure what the dominant cooling rate for vibrations is (collisions or spontaneous emission) at supersonic beam temperatures. But spontaneous emission sets the lower limit for how fast the excited states come down.

The advantage of a CBGB here is the lower velocity, meaning for a given beam length you get more time to thermalize (experiment size is finite in real world applications).

Even if you do end up with a high rotational temperature, rotational repumping is easy peasy compared to vibrational repumping, though both take a lot of precious time (which translates into beam length if you don't have the ability to trap your molecules).
 

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