View Windows on a Combustion Chamber

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the installation of view windows on a combustion chamber, specifically focusing on the use of quartz windows with 304 stainless steel. Participants explore challenges related to thermal expansion, window shape, and the operational context of the combustion chamber, which is designed to simulate a jet engine.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the installation of view windows on combustion chambers and mentions the differing coefficients of thermal expansion between quartz and stainless steel.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the type of combustion chamber being discussed, noting the difference between a domestic oven and an engine component.
  • A suggestion is made regarding the installation method, proposing that thermal expansion concerns may be mitigated by using an O-ring seal to allow for movement between the window and the stainless frame, rather than fixing them rigidly.
  • A participant provides context about their chamber, which simulates a jet engine at low speeds, combusting kerosene and testing various fuels to explore emission reduction methods, while also mentioning the use of a schlieren system for flow visualization.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying perspectives on the installation techniques and the implications of thermal expansion, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the specific challenges related to the thermal expansion coefficients or the optimal design for the windows, leaving these as open questions.

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Does anyone have view windows which they installed on their combustion chamber?
My team and I are going to install quartz windows on 304 stainless steel, and so far the coefficients of thermal expansion look really different. We are also debating on the shape of the windows.

Any hints would be great!
 
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What sort of combustion chamber? I've got a glass door on my oven, but making a perspex cylinder head for an engine is a different kettle of fish.
 
smesparza said:
My team and I are going to install quartz windows on 304 stainless steel, and so far the coefficients of thermal expansion look really different.
Just a thought, but thermal expansion only matters if the window is fixed/bolted so it can't move separately from the stainless frame. Having an O-ring or similar seal between the two would allow for small differences in the thermal contraction rates as long as you don't try and fix the window by bolting. In other words, bolt them together with just enough force to get the right compression on your gasket and allow the window (or stainless frame) some movement.
 
Hello! Thanks for your replies!

Our chamber is supposed to simulate a jet engine but at really low speeds.
We combust kerosene inside, but we have tested other fuels like ethanol, methanol, and other biodiesels.
The main purpose is to see how we can decrease the emissions by different methods, and we plan to use a schlieren system to visualize the flow, but we need to get the windows set up.
 

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