Violence In The USA: What Level of Acceptance?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the level of violence that is deemed acceptable in society, particularly in the context of law enforcement responses and societal desensitization to violence. Participants share personal anecdotes and observations related to recent incidents, including a third-grade plot and a traffic stop involving a woman unfamiliar with U.S. police procedures.

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  • Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern over rising levels of violence and aggressive behavior in society, citing personal experiences and observations.
  • Others argue that perceptions of increased violence may be exaggerated, referencing statistics that suggest violent crime rates are lower than in previous decades.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriateness of police responses during traffic stops, with some suggesting that the actions taken by officers are a result of the current societal climate and potential threats.
  • Some participants highlight the need for individuals, particularly those new to the U.S., to understand local laws and police procedures to avoid misunderstandings during encounters with law enforcement.
  • The incident involving the third graders is debated, with some claiming it was exaggerated while others emphasize the seriousness of the underlying plot to harm a teacher.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the level of violence in society or the appropriateness of police responses. Multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of recent events and the historical context of violence.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of acceptable violence and the historical context of crime rates. Participants reference personal experiences and anecdotal evidence without providing empirical data to support their claims.

  • #91
Poop-Loops said:
Watching a violent movie, playing a violent sport, or attacking someone on the street are the equivalents of watching porn, having sex, or raping someone. Are you going to tell me I can't have sex or watch porn because it looks the same as rape?
Wow, did no-one ever tell you that things happening on a television screen in a staged environment are not the same as things happening on the streets in the real world?

I mean, we do teach our kids about sex in school. So maybe we should teach them about violence?
What are you going to tell them? There's a purpose to sex; a fundamental reason that kids should be told about. This doesn't exist with violence. You analogies are extremely weak, at best.
 
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  • #92
The school system translates "violence" to "aggression". If a child is abnormally aggressive... they are actually saying, he is violent! Not to mention they are telling the parent in a subtle way... get your child some help before he kills somebody!

They try to teach children about handling and controlling aggression. But it's a band-aid at best.
 
  • #93
I don't buy the premise that our society has become more or less violent. It's a matter of what we know(or are told about). When I was a child (as a Kindergarten student) I was hauled into the principal's office because a 2nd grader had pushed me down and punched me, and I climbed him like a monkey, choked him, and slammed his head into a rock. The principal took one look at him and me and gave me a pass.

In my neighborhood, fully 1/2 of the guys of the guys in my neighborhood have have done time in the Maine State Prison, and the older guys treated me like a pit bull. They would tell some new kid that I was gunning for them, etc, and provoke a fight to see who would come out on top. I never topped 125# even through high school, but I could run 10-15 miles easily. I never wanted to hurt anybody (having been a victim of domestic violence), but I wouldn't stand for getting my ass kicked, either.
 
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  • #94
I call people like you, "Scrappers!".

Those are the best! And after I spend 20 minutes chasing your ass around a car in the parking lot... we go inside and have beers together!
 
  • #95
P4PPY said:
I LOVE it! Wait... I think we should teach them about real sex in school first...

No way, that'd just mess it up...

The famous Monty Python's Sex Education:

 
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