Volume in first octant cut off by a plane

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The problem involves finding the equation of a plane that passes through the point [1,2,2] and minimizes the volume of the pyramid formed in the first octant. The subject area encompasses geometry and optimization within three-dimensional space.

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  • The original poster attempts to express the volume of the pyramid in terms of the intercepts of the plane and derives a formula for volume based on these variables. They question the correctness of their approach and seek guidance on how to proceed.
  • Some participants suggest taking partial derivatives of the volume with respect to the intercepts to find critical points, raising questions about the validity of the resulting values for y and z.
  • Others point out a potential error in the algebraic manipulation related to solving for x, prompting a reevaluation of the expressions used.

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Participants are operating under the constraints of the first octant and the requirement that the plane intersects the positive axes. There is an acknowledgment of the limitations posed by the need for positive intercepts in the context of volume calculation.

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Homework Statement



Find the equation of the plane through the point [1,2,2] that cuts off the smallest possible volume in the first octant.

Homework Equations



Volume of a pyramid = 1/3Ah

The Attempt at a Solution



The plane is going to cut out a pyramid with the x-, y-, and z-intercepts, so let x, y, and z be the intercepts. Then V = 1/6xyz. But since the plane must go through [1,2,2] and three points define a plane, we can write one of x, y, and z in terms of the other two. Any plane passing through intercepts x, y, and z has a general point [a,b,c] so that:
a/x + b/y + c/z = 1
Since [1,2,2] is on the plane, plug that in for [a,b,c]:
1/x + 2/y + 2/z = 1
Solve for x (just because I'm guessing that it would be the easiest):
x = -1/(2y + 2z - 1)
Now plug that into the volume formula:
V = -yz/(12y + 12z - 6)

Is this right so far? If not, what did I do wrong? If so, how can I continue?
 
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I think it's ok so far. Now take the partial derivatives dV/dy and dV/dz and set them both to zero. That's two equations in two unknowns.
 
All right, so from there I take the partials and I get:

dV/dy = (-12z^2 + 6z)/(12y + 12z - 6)^2
dV/dz = (-12y^2 + 6y)/(12y + 12z - 6)^2

Setting these equal to zero, I get:

y = z = 0 and y = z = 1/2

However, I know that y and z can't be 0, and if y and z are 1/2, then by my earlier result:

x = -1/(1 + 1 - 1) = -1

I can't have x = -1, because the plane has to intersect the positive x-axis or else the volume will be infinite. What did I do wrong here?
 
You have a mistake solving for x in 1/x + 2/y + 2/z = 1. 1/x=1-(2/y+2/z). That's
x=1/(1-(2/y+2/z)). Not the same as your expression. I missed it. Sorry.
 

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