Volume of a Sphere: Calculation & Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the volume of a sphere, exploring various methods of integration and reasoning behind the formulas used. Participants engage in both theoretical and mathematical reasoning regarding the integration techniques applicable to this problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a method of calculating the volume of a sphere by integrating the area of infinitesimally thin circles, but questions why their result does not yield the correct volume.
  • Another participant states the surface area of a sphere, introducing a related concept without directly addressing the volume calculation.
  • A different participant suggests that the initial method results in the volume of a right circular cone and recommends a different integral approach using the Pythagorean theorem to find the radius at varying heights.
  • One participant argues that the volume cannot be calculated with fewer than three integrals, presenting a triple integral that they claim correctly computes the volume of the sphere.
  • Another participant questions whether the initial integral indeed represents the area of a quadrant of the sphere.
  • A later reply suggests a proper integral for calculating the volume of a hemisphere, emphasizing the relationship between height and radius at different points along the axis.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate methods for calculating the volume of a sphere, with no consensus reached on the validity of the various proposed approaches.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the integration methods depend on the definitions of variables and the geometric interpretations of the sphere, which may not be universally agreed upon.

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I was just thinking about how you would calculate the volume of a sphere last night, and tried it thusly, using the logic that a sphere is nothing but a bunch of infinitesimally thin circles with increasing radius from 0 to r, and then from decreasing radius r to 0:

[tex]\int^{R}_{0} \pi r^{2}dr= \frac{1}{3} \pi R^{3}[/tex]

This, I thought should be one hemisphere, so I multiplied the result by 2, getting [tex]\frac{2}{3} \pi R^{3}[/tex]. This, of course, is not the volume of a sphere. Why did my method not work?
 
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The surface area of a sphere is 4(pi)r^2
 
you have the radii growing linearly, so you are getting (twice) the volume of a right circular cone of base radius R and height R.

it seems you should integrate something like pi(R^2 - y^2) as y grows from 0 to R. and then double it. i.e. the thin disc at height y has radius sqrt(R^2-y^2) by pythagoras.by the way euclid also used the word "circle" to refer both to the one dimensional circumference and the 2 dimensional interior of a circle, so the flap about that usage is historically unjustified.
 
What you calculated was the area below the function [tex]\pi r^2[/tex] above some axis.

I don't think you can find the volume of a sphere in under 3 integrals since you need to account for the change in x/y/z.

The integral will be [tex]\int_0^{2\pi}d\theta \int_0^{\pi}sin\phi d\phi \int_0^R r^2 dr[/tex]

Although it's a tripple integral since none of the limits of one variable depend on another variable you can treat it as the multiple of 3 integrals.
[tex]\int_0^{2\pi}d\theta[/tex]
[tex]\int_0^{\pi}sin\phi d\phi[/tex]
[tex]\int_0^R r^2 dr[/tex]
After you multiply the results you should get the volume of the sphere [tex]\frac{4}{3}\pi R^3[/tex]
 
But clearly the starting integral was giving the area of a quadrant of the sphere?
 
Your proper integral should be, for the hemishere:
[tex]\int_{0}^{R}\pi{r}(z)^{2}dz[/tex]
where z is the variable dsenoting at which height along the axis you are, while r(z) is the radius of the disk at that height.
 

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