Volumes of Revolution Word Problem

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The problem involves calculating the volume of the Earth above a certain latitude, specifically north of 45 degrees, treating the Earth as a sphere with a given circumference. The original poster attempts to set up an integral for this volume using a cross-section of the sphere and is exploring the appropriate bounds for integration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral and the choice of bounds, with some suggesting the use of trigonometric functions to determine these limits. There is also a focus on simplifying calculations by using a variable for the radius instead of large numbers.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the setup of the integral and the potential pitfalls of using large numbers. There is an ongoing exploration of the results obtained, with one participant expressing concern over the magnitude of the calculated volume, suggesting it may be incorrect.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the Earth is a perfect sphere, and there are discussions about the implications of this assumption on the calculations. The original poster is also grappling with the integration limits and the simplification of the integral.

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Homework Statement



Assume that the Earth is a sphere with circumference of 24,900 miles.
a. Find the volume of the Earth north of latitude 45 degrees. (hint: integrate with respect to y)
b. Find the volume of the Earth between the equator and latitude 45

Homework Equations



circle: x^2 + y^2 = r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



so far, I have just been working on A. I took a cross section of the sphere from latitude 45 and up and drew it on a graph. I realized that if i revolved it around the y-axis that it would form the shape I need, a dome.

I found the radius using the circumference and set up my integral.
i have: pi * int(124500pi - y^2 dy after simplifying.

I think I'm all set to integrate and find the answer, but I can't figure out what to use for the upper and lower bounds. I thought i might try and use sin(45) or cos(45) or tan(45), in some way, but I can't really wrap my head around the problem from this point forward.
 
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… avoid using huge numbers … !

xcgirl said:
i have: pi * int(124500pi - y^2 dy after simplifying.

I think I'm all set to integrate and find the answer, but I can't figure out what to use for the upper and lower bounds. I thought i might try and use sin(45) or cos(45) or tan(45), in some way, but I can't really wrap my head around the problem from this point forward.

Hi xcgirl! :smile:

Hint: with big numbers like this, just put the radius = r throughout the calculation, and then put the number for r in at the end - you're much less likely to make a mistake (like forgetting to square something!) - and you won't have five-digit limits for the integral sign!

Yes, your approach seems fine.

Integrate over y, from y = r/√2 to r. :smile:

(If in doubt as to whether it's sin or tan, draw a diagram!)
 
when i do this, i am getting very large numbers, larger even then the actual volume of the earth. I'm not sure what's going on.
 
The integral you might be using, which seems to be

[tex]V = \pi\int_{\frac{r}{\sqrt{2}}}^r (124500\pi - y^2)dy[/tex]

doesn't look right. You may have simplified wrong; from where did you get [itex]124500\pi[/itex]?
 
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xcgirl said:
when i do this, i am getting very large numbers, larger even then the actual volume of the earth. I'm not sure what's going on.

Hi xcgirl! :smile:

Show us the integral you used, before putting any numbers in (ie just using r), so we can see what is going wrong. :smile:
 
http://www4a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP103319a0269e42g61e9e00000ga3250hih542d42?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=35&w=114&h=48
This is the integral I used and I get 1.6376*10^12 miles cubed which doesn't seem right.
 
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If the Earth were a cube 8000 miles on each side, its volume would be (8,000)3 mi3 = 512 x 109 mi3 = 5.12 x 1011 mi3. Being roughly spherical, the Earth would fit inside such a box, so its volume would be less than this. That makes the value too big by maybe two orders of magnitude, since you're calculating the volume above 45 degrees N.
 

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