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The discussion centers around the pursuit of expertise in multibody dynamics, particularly for individuals who are self-studying due to work commitments. Participants share resources, educational paths, and personal experiences related to learning multibody simulation techniques.

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  • One participant seeks advice on becoming a multibody expert, asking for book recommendations and software to learn.
  • Several participants emphasize the need for specificity in the area of multibody dynamics being pursued.
  • There is mention of the importance of numerical modeling as a foundational skill for multibody simulation.
  • Some participants suggest that formal classes in multibody dynamics are beneficial, but acknowledge that self-study is possible.
  • One participant notes the challenge of correcting unexpected numerical errors in their current simulations and expresses a desire to improve their skills.
  • Resources such as textbooks and online materials are discussed, with specific titles like "Analytical Dynamics" by Haim Baruh being recommended.
  • Participants discuss the potential for accessing online lectures and course materials from universities as a means of self-education.
  • There is a suggestion that continuous education should not stop after formal schooling, and that self-study can be pursued effectively.

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Participants generally agree on the value of formal education in multibody dynamics but recognize that self-study is a viable alternative. There is no consensus on the best resources or methods for self-study, as various suggestions are made without clear agreement on their effectiveness.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of experience and educational background, which may influence their recommendations. The discussion reflects a range of approaches to learning multibody dynamics, from formal classes to self-directed study using online resources.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for mechanical engineers, students, and professionals interested in enhancing their knowledge of multibody dynamics and simulation techniques.

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Hi all,

I want to be a multibody expert. How could you do that? Is there any book you suggest me to read? Which sw do you suggest me to learn? Any suggestion is appreciated.

Thanks
 
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Multi body expert?
An expert in multi-body what?

All engineering is "multi-body" so you'll have to be more specific.
Where abouts are you in your education?
 
Simon Bridge said:
Multi body expert?
An expert in multi-body what?

All engineering is "multi-body" so you'll have to be more specific.
Where abouts are you in your education?

I meant "multi-body simulation". I'm a mechanical engineer and I do simple multibody simulation but anytime sometime I loose a lot of time in correcting my models because I get some unexpected numerical errors and I don't have any idea how to fix them. So I want to improve my skills in it.
 
Oh well, then you want to learn about "numerical modelling" for the grounding.
Then you need to apply it to the specific kind of multi-body simulation you want to do.
 
serbring said:
I want to be a multibody expert.
The standard approach is to take a mechanical engineering class in multibody dynamics. Or two classes. It's a complex subject. It's a yearlong class in many schools.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Oh well, then you want to learn about "numerical modelling" for the grounding.
Then you need to apply it to the specific kind of multi-body simulation you want to do.

thanks, is there any reference material I should study?
 
D H said:
The standard approach is to take a mechanical engineering class in multibody dynamics. Or two classes. It's a complex subject. It's a yearlong class in many schools.

Unfortunately I already work, so I can't take classes anymore. I have to study it on my own. :(
 
If there is a college class named "multibody dynamics" or similar, then it will be the bare minimum that you need to become expert. By itself the class can get you to the "functional" level from which you just need experience to get "competent".

I understand you cannot actually attend classes :) but that does not mean you cannot do the course.
You want to be an "expert" and that means being prepared to go the extra mile. If you just want to know about it as a hobby, that is a different proposition.

Find out what the textbook is and see if you can get hold of the regular assignments... use your initiative.
There will also be other courses that go with that one - find out what they are: the college prospectus should help - they are online these days. You could also contact students, find out who takes good notes and ask them to get you a copy.

A lot of colleges put their lectures online - have you looked?

If you are not prepared to put in this sort of work, then you probably won't become "expert".
But you could become "knowledgeable".
 
serbring said:
Unfortunately I already work, so I can't take classes anymore. I have to study it on my own. :(
There is no rule that says your education must stop when you leave college for the working world. Do you work in an even somewhat related technical field? Does your employer provide educational benefits? If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no, this is a sign that it might be time to look for a new employer.

Simon Bridge said:
If there is a college class named "multibody dynamics" or similar, ...
Many schools have a class with this exact name. In others, it's a major part of a class called "advanced dynamics", or "analytical dynamics", or something similar. Multibody dynamics is a subfield of mechanical engineering (with crossover to aerospace engineering). Look at all the books on this one subject: https://www.google.com/search?q=multibody+dynamics&tbm=bks


serbring: One text that is not on the above list is Analytical Dynamics by Haim Baruh.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
If there is a college class named "multibody dynamics" or similar, then it will be the bare minimum that you need to become expert. By itself the class can get you to the "functional" level from which you just need experience to get "competent".

I understand you cannot actually attend classes :) but that does not mean you cannot do the course.
You want to be an "expert" and that means being prepared to go the extra mile. If you just want to know about it as a hobby, that is a different proposition.

Find out what the textbook is and see if you can get hold of the regular assignments... use your initiative.
There will also be other courses that go with that one - find out what they are: the college prospectus should help - they are online these days. You could also contact students, find out who takes good notes and ask them to get you a copy.

A lot of colleges put their lectures online - have you looked?

If you are not prepared to put in this sort of work, then you probably won't become "expert".
But you could become "knowledgeable".

Thanks for your reply, What I meant is that I can't follow classes but I can study what I need.

I have tons of online material and books, so I posted here to have a suggestion from experienced people about books to read or exercises to do in order to understand very well multibody dynamics.
 
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D H said:
There is no rule that says your education must stop when you leave college for the working world. Do you work in an even somewhat related technical field? Does your employer provide educational benefits? If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no, this is a sign that it might be time to look for a new employer.

I totally agree, I study almost everyday in order to improve my skill.

Many schools have a class with this exact name. In others, it's a major part of a class called "advanced dynamics", or "analytical dynamics", or something similar. Multibody dynamics is a subfield of mechanical engineering (with crossover to aerospace engineering). Look at all the books on this one subject: https://www.google.com/search?q=multibody+dynamics&tbm=bks


serbring: One text that is not on the above list is Analytical Dynamics by Haim Baruh.

Have you used any of those books?
 
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I work close to the University and the book analytical dynamics, there are many solved examples. I was looking for a book like that. Thanks
 
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I have tons of online material and books, so I posted here to have a suggestion from experienced people about books to read or exercises to do in order to understand very well multibody dynamics.
And what you got was suggestions for how to figure out which materials to concentrate on. :)

Happy hunting.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
And what you got was suggestions for how to figure out which materials to concentrate on. :)

Happy hunting.

Thanks! :)
 

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