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The discussion centers on the design of a piston system with a 100 cm diameter and a load of 4000 kg. To ensure structural integrity, the piston must be made of a suitable metal, with steel being a recommended choice for both the piston and the cylinder wall. The thickness of the piston is critical and depends on the specific type of steel used, as well as the static friction between the lubricated surfaces, which can be approximated using coefficients found in friction literature. The user seeks precise calculations for piston thickness and material recommendations for seals.

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i want to use a 100 cm diameter piston witch will have 4000 kg of pressure on it.
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-how thick does the piston have to be to hold that much weight if it is made of metal?
-what material should i use to make a seal to the cylinder wall and should the cylinder wall be another material then metal?
-what is the static friction on the cylinder wall and seal if lubricated?

thank you for your time
 
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4000kg is not a pressure, it is a mass.
-how thick does the piston have to be to hold that much weight if it is made of metal?
Which metal?
-what material should i use to make a seal to the cylinder wall and should the cylinder wall be another material then metal?
Without any special requirements, steel is probably a good choice for the cylinder wall. The next question: which type of steel.
-what is the static friction on the cylinder wall and seal if lubricated?
Hard to tell without more details about the setup.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction#Approximate_coefficients_of_friction has some static friction coefficient values for lubricated steel on steel. I would not trust these values for any serious work though.

The coefficient of static friction gives you an approximation of static friction as a portion of the normal force. The normal force is basically how hard your surfaces are pressing against each other.
 
What i want to do is have a cylinder that is made of steel (don't know what types there are but i guess regular)
with a height of 20 ft or so, filled with water. for the bottom of the cylinder i want a piston that would move 6 inches.

the volume of the water on top of the piston is about 4000 liters
i was wandering if you could tell me how thick the steel would have to be so that it would support that weight.
 

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