Want to study nano-particles in Germany, Ph.D. or a second Master?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the considerations for pursuing further studies in Germany, specifically focusing on whether to apply for a Ph.D. or a second Master's degree in the context of researching nano-particles and their optical properties. Participants explore the implications of each option and the challenges of establishing connections with potential research groups remotely.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests applying for a second Master's program in Germany to gain familiarity with research groups, although they express concern about being rejected due to already holding a Master's degree.
  • Another participant recommends directly applying for Ph.D. programs and contacting professors beforehand to enhance the application, arguing that the existing Master's degree and relevant research experience should suffice for Ph.D. qualifications.
  • There is a discussion about the feasibility of getting a taste of the research through job advertisements for Ph.D. student positions before making a decision on further studies.
  • Concerns are raised about the limitations of gathering information without an on-site visit, with one participant questioning the practicality of planning a two-year stay in Germany for this purpose.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about which Master's programs would be suitable for someone focused on nano-particles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether pursuing a second Master's degree is advisable, with differing opinions on the necessity of this step versus applying directly for a Ph.D. program. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to connect with research groups.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the uncertainty surrounding the application process and the potential rejection based on prior degrees. There is also a lack of specific recommendations for Master's programs focused on nano-particles.

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Hello,

I have completed a Master program in China, during which, I joined in a project applying nano-particles in optical device. The project motivated me to study optical property of nano-particles, and I am looking for a Ph.D. position in Germany. The problem is: how do I get known with my potential research group since I have no way to visit there? Two thoughts came to my mind:

A.
Before entering Ph.D, I apply to an international Master program in Germany, such as MAOT.

http://www.aot.uni-erlangen.de/maot/home.html

During the Master, I may get known with the people and research their. But I have already got a Master’s in China. Will I be rejected for this?

B.
I apply to a so-called structural Ph.D. program directly, such as In that case, do I need to contact a professor before making an application?

Are there any recommendation?​
 
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I would look for PhD programs and ask the professors/contact persons - you do not have to do that (you can directly send an application - why not?), but usually this is a good idea. It can help to make the application better, and you are more than a random applicant then.

A second master is possible I guess, but I would avoid it - you have a MSc and research experience in the right field, that should be qualification enough for a PhD position.
 
mfb said:
I would look for PhD programs and ask the professors/contact persons - you do not have to do that (you can directly send an application - why not?), but usually this is a good idea. It can help to make the application better, and you are more than a random applicant then.

A second master is possible I guess, but I would avoid it - you have a MSc and research experience in the right field, that should be qualification enough for a PhD position.

Hello, mfb

Thank you so much for your advice. I found a Ph.D. student job advertisement that I may be interested in, and I plan to study on the project first and then contact the corresponding professor. Is that seemed a good way I could have a taste of the research before I come here? However, I am still worrying about the limited information I could get without an on-site visit. With that said, if I would like to attend a Master program in Germany and the main purpose is to find a research group that is suitable for me, what kind of program would you recommend?
 
Tekk said:
Is that seemed a good way I could have a taste of the research before I come here?
I certainly does not harm to know the topics they are working on.
Tekk said:
However, I am still worrying about the limited information I could get without an on-site visit.
An on-site visit is certainly interesting, but do you want to plan 2 years for that? Visiting Germany for a week would be cheaper than visiting it for 2 years.
Tekk said:
what kind of program would you recommend?
No idea, I don't know nano-particles groups.
 
mfb said:
I certainly does not harm to know the topics they are working on.
An on-site visit is certainly interesting, but do you want to plan 2 years for that? Visiting Germany for a week would be cheaper than visiting it for 2 years.
No idea, I don't know nano-particles groups.

Your reply is very helpful to me. Thank you!
 

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