Water Flowing through U-tubes (Velocity Given Cross-Sectional Areas)

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The discussion centers on solving a fluid dynamics problem involving U-tubes, specifically question 23 from the AAPT Physics Team solutions. The key equation used is the continuity equation, Av = A'v', leading to the conclusion that the velocity v' in the narrower tube is √2v when the cross-sectional area A' is half of A. The solution incorporates the conservation of momentum, demonstrating that the net forces on the fluid are zero, thus confirming the relationship between the velocities and areas of the tubes.

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Homework Statement


http://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2010/upload/2010_FmaSolutions.pdf
See question 23

A' = 1/2A

Homework Equations


Av = A'v'

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought this was just a simple Av = A'v' problem
which would lead to v' = 2v. But there is apparently more to it, as the answer is √2v.
It could have to do with the momentum because F_net = 0 so it is conserved.
In that case,
mv = mv but I'm confused about how to use that to solve the problem.
 
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Any thoughts?
 
Use conservation of momentum. In terms of the fluid density, the area, and the velocity v, what is the rate of change of momentum of the fluid passing through the U tube on the left? Same question for the U tube on the right.
 
momentum = mv
dp/dt = m/t(v)
dp/dt = (ρAv)v
dp/dt = ρAv^2 - This is the left

Right:
dp/dt = pA'v'^2
A' = .5A
dp/dt = ρAv'^2/2

The two rate changes are equal ( net forces are zero).
v^2 = v'^2/2
2v^2 = v'^2
v' = √2v

This is the right answer. Thanks.

Just a question; from where did you get the motivation to use rate change of momentum?
 
SignaturePF said:
momentum = mv
dp/dt = m/t(v)
dp/dt = (ρAv)v
dp/dt = ρAv^2 - This is the left

Right:
dp/dt = pA'v'^2
A' = .5A
dp/dt = ρAv'^2/2

The two rate changes are equal ( net forces are zero).
v^2 = v'^2/2
2v^2 = v'^2
v' = √2v

This is the right answer. Thanks.

Just a question; from where did you get the motivation to use rate change of momentum?

The problem said that the assembly of u tubes is in equilibrium. That means that the forces exerted by the fluids on the u tubes must be equal. The force exerted by each fluid on each u tube is equal to the force exerted by the u tube on the fluid. The latter is equal to the rate of change of momentum of the fluid.
 
Ok I see where you were going.
Essentially, the conceptual link is:
Equlibrium → ƩF = 0 → FL = FR
F = dp/dt
dp/dt = mv/dt
Given, that v is constant, m is changing
dp/dt = dm/dt*v
dm/dt = ρAv
dp/dt = ρAv^2
And that's it right.

I'm just making sure so I don't end up memorizing scenarios.
 
SignaturePF said:
Ok I see where you were going.
Essentially, the conceptual link is:
Equlibrium → ƩF = 0 → FL = FR
F = dp/dt
dp/dt = mv/dt
Given, that v is constant, m is changing
dp/dt = dm/dt*v
dm/dt = ρAv
dp/dt = ρAv^2
And that's it right.

I'm just making sure so I don't end up memorizing scenarios.

Yes. Well done. I hold in very high regard a student like you who focuses on fundamentals. You can look forward to a bright future.

Chet
 

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