Water to air heat exchange - imperial units doing my head in

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of using imperial units in the context of calculating energy transfer in a water to air heat exchanger. Participants explore the specifics of air and water flow rates, pressure drops, and the necessary energy input to achieve desired air temperatures. The conversation includes technical details and personal experiences related to the application of these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over converting metric to imperial units, particularly regarding volumetric flow rates and pressure drops.
  • Another participant clarifies that the pressure drop values are not percentages and suggests that the units used are likely in inches of water column for air and feet head for water.
  • A participant mentions the need to determine the energy required to heat air from 20°C to 32°C and questions how to calculate the energy input into the water.
  • There is a discussion about using the heat exchanger's specifications to estimate performance, with one participant suggesting that contacting the vendor might yield better insights.
  • One participant proposes calculating the total thermal resistance using the surface area and thermal conductivity of aluminum to find the overall heat transfer coefficient.
  • Another participant acknowledges the complexity of the calculations and the potential for making assumptions when working with the provided data.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that contacting the vendor for clarification may be beneficial, but there is no consensus on the best approach to calculate the necessary energy input or the specifics of the heat exchanger's performance characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the conversion of units and the interpretation of specifications. There are mentions of potential assumptions that may need to be made when working with the data provided by the heat exchanger's manufacturer.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals dealing with heat exchangers, particularly those unfamiliar with imperial units or seeking to understand the calculations involved in thermal energy transfer in HVAC systems.

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Hey guys, newbie here and first post. I've got a (hopefully) simple question, but for some reason my brain just isn't working. I'm too used to working with metric, and even though it should be fairly simple, working with imperial units just hurts.

Anyway, here's the problem: I have a specific volume of air that I need to move, and at the same time I need to heat the air to a specific temperature. I'm using a water to air heat exchanger to heat the air, and found what I think is a suitable product.

The heat exchanger product page lists:
size (in inches)
BTU (is this BTU or BTU/h?)
volumetric flow rate of air (CFM)
pressure drop of air (this really confuses me - is it 81% drop of original pressure? ie: the pressure is now 19% of original??)
pressure drop of water (ditto as above)
volumetric flow rate of water (GPM)

I have T1 and T2 of the air that I wish to heat, and I know the velocity that I want the air to be after the heat exchange (I picked the heat exchanger based on the volumetric flow rate - assuming it remains constant through the heat exchange?). I also have the energy required to heat the air from 20 deg C to 32 deg C (the final temp).

How do I figure out the energy into the water? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but it seems like US methods are completely different to what I learned in University
 
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Can you post this HE product page or give a reference?
 
The decimals are not % loss. The website is terribly laid out for just having the values (and not being consistent with them...), but if this is meant to be installed with HVAC ducting, the .81 for air pressure loss would generally be read as inH20 (inch water column), which is what they are using here, according to the spec sheet. They use Ft. H20 (feet head) for the water pressure drop.

Have you read the spec sheet? http://www.northlanddistrib.com/WA16X18-Heat-Exchanger--40000-106000-Btu_p_67.html

T2air, and T1water required, are determined by the airflow across the unit. Make sure your system can achieve these requirements (800-1200 SCFM of air at roughly 7-10 ft/s for the 16x18 model)

Also, check the performance characteristics of your selected model, 2100 CFM (1m^3/s) is very high. In this case, it would be best to contact the vendor and discuss your particular application.
 
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I didn't even see the specs there :blushing:

It's more for really rough order of magnitude to get an idea of what we're dealing with. 1650 CFM should be just on the lower limit of what we can get away with, so I'm trying to aim for that.

It doesn't help that I'm completely unfamiliar with any of these units of measurement. Maybe I'll try and use the dimensions provided of the HE and see if I can work out what I need from there instead of relying on the empirical data?

I should be able to use the surface area and thermal conductivity of aluminium to work out the total thermal resistance, correct? Then from there I'll have the overall heat transfer coefficient and since I know how much energy I want to put into the air, I can then use that to find out how much energy needs to be in the water?
 
I think you'd get further calling the vendor...

You could take the operating data given in the spec sheet and work backwards to find the expected conditions at your operating points, but you'll likely be making lots of assumptions.
 
Yeah it's more for ballpark figures, but I take your point... contacting them would probably be the easiest way. I just wanted the satisfaction of working it out myself lol. Thanks for the help!
 
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Yeah it's more for ballpark figures, but I take your point... contacting them would probably be the easiest way. I just wanted the satisfaction of working it out myself lol. Thanks for the help!

Go for it, then, by all means! Even if only to assure yourself that you know what the vendor is talking about. Should be a good exercise to get yourself a pretty darn good understanding of this type of exchanger.

Getting the surface area of these can sometimes be tricky business though.
 
Yeah I've already run into a wall with that lol. But I figure 12 fin/in by 3 rows of fins by the height of the HE by the OD of the tube should be close enough to give me an approximate surface area. Now figuring out the rest is hurting my brain :S Thermodynamics were never my strongest subject. It's really interesting, but it's just layers upon layers and layers.
 

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