Wave Motion, writing an equation.

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The discussion revolves around writing an equation for a sinusoidal wave traveling in the -x direction, with specific parameters such as amplitude, wavelength, and frequency. Participants are tasked with formulating the wave function y(x,t) based on given conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the wave function, questioning the correctness of the initial attempt and the need for a phase constant to satisfy initial conditions. There is also exploration of the correct form of the wave equation for a wave traveling to the left.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided guidance on adjusting the wave function to meet the specified initial conditions. There is ongoing exploration of the correct mathematical representation, with some participants noting the importance of using sine versus cosine in the equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under constraints of ensuring the wave function matches specific initial conditions, such as the transverse position and velocity at t=0 and x=0. There is also a mention of limited submissions for the original poster.

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Homework Statement



A sinusoidal wave traveling in the -x direction (to the left) has an amplitude of 20.0 cm, a wavelength of 29.0 cm, and a frequency of 15.0 Hz. The transverse position of an element of the medium at t = 0, x = 0 is y = -3.00 cm, and the element has a positive velocity here.

Write an expression for the wave function y(x,t), where y and x are expressed in cm, and t is expressed in seconds.



Homework Equations



[tex]\omega = 2\pif[/tex]

v=(lambda)(frequency)

[tex]k = 2\pi/\lambda[/tex]

[tex]y(x,t) = Asin[\left(2\pi/\lambda\right)(x - vt)][/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


We are given the fact that:

[tex]A = 20.0cm[/tex]

[tex]\lambda = 29cm[/tex]

[tex]v = (lambda)(frequency) = 435cm/s[/tex]

I think the answer is the following, but I am not sure, and I only have one more submission left, so I want to be sure.

[tex]y(x,t) = -20.0cos[.217(x-435t)][/tex]
 
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Anyone have any idea if I am correct?
 
Hi Ithryndil,

If you check your answer at x=0 and t=0, you get that y=-20 cm. However, this is not what the problem specifies; they say they want x==-3cm at x=0 and t=0.

I think you need to include a phase constant in your expression that will give the correct initial condition.
 
You mean y = 3 cm? And I think so too. I just realized that the general equation for y(x,t) is as follows:

[tex] y(x,t) = Asin(kx - vt + \phi)][/tex]

I think the above equation is for a wave traveling to the right. I think because this wave is traveling to the left it needs to be:

[tex] y(x,t) = Asin(kx + vt + \phi)][/tex]
 
Yes, I did mean y= -3 cm. Sorry!

Your updated equation looks good. Once you plug in the numbers you found, you can check that it matches y=-3cm at x=0 and t=0 and that it also has a positive velocity (in the y direction at that point).
 
Alright, thank you for the help.
 
Ithryndil said:
[tex] y(x,t) = A\sin(kx + vt + \phi)][/tex]

That is almost correct. There should either be some more parentheses inside the sin argument, or replace vt with [tex]\omega t[/tex].
 
You're right, it should be: [tex]y(x,t) = A\sin(kx + \omegat + \phi)[/tex]

I wound up getting the following for the equation:

[tex]y(x,t)20.0sin(0.217x+94.25t-0.1506)[/tex]

Now I was stupid and input [tex]y(x,t)20.0cos(0.217x+94.25t-0.1506)[/tex]...note I put cosine and not sine. Yes, the cosine would be correct with the right phase angle, but it's not with that phase angle.
 
Your expression (using sin) looks good. :smile:
 
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Thank you. I just can't believe I inputted the expression with cos instead of sin.
 

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