Weather Wars

  1. Ivan Seeking

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    From the thread: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=61472

    Well Dayle, I emailed Scott Stevens http://www.kpvi.com/index.cfm?page=team/scot/content.cfm
    and asked about the claims at your linked site. Here is his response. I didn't think that it would take long to nip this in the bud.

    His reply
    oh. :uhh:
     
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  4. Ivan Seeking

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    I agree. He never claims to have finished college.
     
  5. lol read this quote from this guys theory:

    http://www.handpen.com/Bio/ss.htm#Theories


    Particularly like this one:
    I missed that memo.
     
  6. matthyaouw

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    Isn't it fascinating how there has been no language development whatsoever in the next few thousand years?
    I've seen some fairly appauling crackpot babbling in my time, but that one has to be one of the worst.
     
  7. Its been around an hour since ive read it and i still cant stop laughing. Best hangover day ever! Anymore entertaining links like this one that you have found?
     
  8. Ivan Seeking

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    Why do I get the feeling that this guy won't be doing weather reports much longer?
     
  9. matthyaouw

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    See this thread:

    https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=59797

    I espescially enjoyed the flat earth theory page.
    I clicked the link called "the evidence" and it said "This page is under construction. Please come back when we have got our act together." I couldn't have put it better myself!
     
  10. Ivan Seeking

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    Well, he went and did it now. Stevens is the guest on Coast to Coast AM tonight - 10 million listeners. Either the station is planning to basque in the glow of controversy, or Stevens had better plan to change careers.

    What's your vote? Will Stevens have a job on Monday?
     
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  11. So what happened with the Coast to Coast AM show? Has he picked a new career yet lol?
     
  12. Ivan Seeking

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    He still seems to be there.
     
  13. I thought the reason for the wavelike nature of clouds was due to them traveling over something like mountains, where it forces an oscillation of pressure changes after it clears them?

    I also really wish I had a cloud picture that looked like a bunny rabbit, I would foward it to him and ask him if he can explain it...
     
  14. Ivan Seeking

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    All else aside, that is to say, I have no interest in any of his theories, but he agrees with you. He also claims that there are no mountains involved with these patterns. Part of his claim involves storm systems splitting allegedly with no known model that predicts such behavior. This should be easy enough to confirm or debunk. The rest is moot. His claims may be no more affected by his way-out theories than by his religion.

    I have asked a few meteorologist to comment on his cloud pictures. So far, no response. I haven't looked yet but there must be someone out there talking down his clouds. Everyone seems to gravitate towards the other nonsense, but the clouds are the real issue here. Are his cloud pictures unusual or not?
     
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  15. Ivan Seeking

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    I have it on good authority that there is nothing unusual about his clouds. Hopefully another meteorologist will post directly or allow a direct quote.

    Edit: It was indicated that meteorologists continue to learn meteorology after the first two years of school. :wink:

    Don't drop out of school or you will end up with your head in the clouds. :biggrin:
     
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  16. Ivan Seeking

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    A second expert has commented in the negative. Still, off the record.
     
  17. Ivan Seeking

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    Hmmm. I notice that both comments made do involve qualifiers...
     
  18. I posted the link, because it was the first link on the subject. In another thread. The internet is above all things, entertaining.
     
  19. Ivan Seeking

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    I'm glad that you brought it up. It was worth a look, IMO. I'm still hoping to get a definitive thumbs down without qualifiers, but I'm not looking for any square clouds. The qualifiers were there, but barely. I think Stevens is sincere but mistaken about his clouds. From there he goes over a cliff.
     
  20. From A Meteorologist

    Hello all, I too have had the "special" opportunity to view the weatherwars web site. As a meteorologist myself, I can claim that most of the phenomena depicted in his photographs and images can be explained through simple physics and fluid dynamics we all learn in an undergraduate meteorology or physics degree. While I give Stevens credit for vast imagination, I assume it is not funny to make fun of him. It is likely he may suffer from a form of schizophrenia or some other psychological disorder.

    It is fun to go through the images he provides and come up with natural physical explanations for the different phenomena. Gravity waves seem to be one of the most prevalent phenomena (mountain waves belonging to this class of waves). However, other images include well-known mesoscale circulations to give symmetric patterns of clear and cloudy in some of the satellite images. Other images show rather random spatial orientations that are common in natural fluids, yet there are claims made about their geometry. So yes, he does provide some interesting images, but there are no images or events captured that shouldn't be reasonably explained through our current understanding of the atmosphere.

    Chris
     
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