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Tido611
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I have looked for some ime for a nice web/tree diagram that shows the links between the different fields of science.
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the search for a visual representation, specifically a web or tree diagram, that illustrates the connections between various scientific fields. Participants explore the concept of unification among sciences, touching on theoretical and conceptual aspects.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant expresses a desire for a comprehensive web diagram linking different fields of science, indicating a need for visual unification.
- Another participant suggests that existing diagrams are overly simplistic and that more complex relationships emerge after early education, leading them to attempt creating their own diagram.
- A participant critiques a previous example, arguing that it oversimplifies the foundational concepts of mathematics and its branches, proposing a more intricate structure that includes various scientific disciplines.
- Some participants assert that mathematics holds a primary position in the hierarchy of sciences, with physics following as a manifestation of mathematical principles, while others challenge this view by reducing mathematics to a mere accounting system.
- There is a humorous exchange about the nature of mathematics and its relationship to the universe, with contrasting opinions on its significance.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the complexity and representation of scientific relationships, with no consensus on the best way to visualize these connections or the hierarchy among the fields.
Contextual Notes
Participants note limitations in existing diagrams, suggesting that they fail to capture the intricate relationships that develop beyond basic education. There is also a lack of agreement on the foundational role of mathematics in relation to other sciences.
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Tido611
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sorry i guess i didnt know how to explain my self before, what I am looking for is a picture of unification maybe that helps...?
(edit in first post "I have looked for some time"**)
(edit in first post "I have looked for some time"**)
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tribdog
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physics
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Everything else
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Everything else
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neurocomp2003
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heh i dn't think there is a very complex web image out there...you get very simple ones in high school text but after gr.10,11 science the fields begin to separate and i don't think any textbook past that would illustrate what you desired...I myself have been looking for one...and decided to draw it on my own I've started wth math and psych.
NOTE in my desire to design such a web, I've come to the conclusion that you can't do it in 2D with it looking very ugly. As i have done with my math and psych one.
technically tribdog's example is wrong...it begins with math(counting) and the concept of single,entity,object otherwise known as one "1" from 1 you'd draw 2 branches [1] fundamental "solid"(not the solid definition in high school)...[2] leads to math(set/number/fx theory) which branches off to many like REAL number system(calculus), more set theory, language theory, computability etc.
back to the first branch ...if you believe there exists "fundamental incompressible solid" it leads to what we have in fields/particles...then to atoms...molecules(chemistry)...compounds...larger compounds
each also has branches for characteristics/interactions/forces etc.
"larger compounds" leads to inorganic(plastics,drugs more chemistry), organic-biomolecules(amino acids,mmm the other little worm like structures that hold the cell wall together and create gates...for the biomolecules leads to cells DNA,genes,Organisms..and the entire bio tree as one could look up in the bio text.
NOTE in my desire to design such a web, I've come to the conclusion that you can't do it in 2D with it looking very ugly. As i have done with my math and psych one.
technically tribdog's example is wrong...it begins with math(counting) and the concept of single,entity,object otherwise known as one "1" from 1 you'd draw 2 branches [1] fundamental "solid"(not the solid definition in high school)...[2] leads to math(set/number/fx theory) which branches off to many like REAL number system(calculus), more set theory, language theory, computability etc.
back to the first branch ...if you believe there exists "fundamental incompressible solid" it leads to what we have in fields/particles...then to atoms...molecules(chemistry)...compounds...larger compounds
each also has branches for characteristics/interactions/forces etc.
"larger compounds" leads to inorganic(plastics,drugs more chemistry), organic-biomolecules(amino acids,mmm the other little worm like structures that hold the cell wall together and create gates...for the biomolecules leads to cells DNA,genes,Organisms..and the entire bio tree as one could look up in the bio text.
- #5
rachmaninoff
Mathematics is ultimate. Then there is physics, which occurs when the universe tries to imitate mathematics. After that is everything else...
- #6
Pengwuino
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rachmaninoff said:Mathematics is ultimate. Then there is physics, which occurs when the universe tries to imitate mathematics. After that is everything else...
*yawn* Mathematics is just an accounting system
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rachmaninoff
Pengwuino said:*yawn* Mathematics is just an accounting system
Then the universe is a penny.
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