Webpage title: Solving for Tension in a Rope Problem

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The problem involves a mountain climber resting on a rope between two cliffs, with the goal of finding the tensions in the rope on either side of her. The climber's weight is given as 565 N, and the angles of the rope on either side are 65 degrees and 80 degrees.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the climber, including weight and tension in the rope. There are questions about how to relate the angles to the forces and whether the normal force is equal to the weight. Some participants suggest using trigonometric functions to resolve the forces.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric functions to find the tensions, but there is no consensus on the correct approach or calculations yet.

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Participants express difficulty in visualizing the problem without a clear diagram, and there is mention of the need to consider the equilibrium of forces acting on the climber.

  • #31
so the triangles are on the outside of the ropes not inside... ok i understand
 
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  • #32
565 is the force upward! it is the Normal force (Fn). the sumation of all forces on her is zero (she is not falling ie. accelerating down, or up) so Fn=Fg and as you said Fg=565N=Fn
 
  • #33
right. so, cos=adj/hyp

so hyp=565/cos(65) right?
 
  • #34
so let T1 = hyp1

then cos(80)=565N/T1

let T2 = hyp2

then cos(65)=565N/T2
 
  • #35
right
I wish the pictures would work, as that would have made this so much easier, but hopefully that helped you
 
  • #36
so T1, 80*, =3253.7N

T2, 65*, =1336.9N

does this look right, seems like quite a bit of tension
 
  • #37
i tried those answers but they were incorrect.
 
  • #38
no- I think we did something wrong. T1+T2=565N so you could say

T1=565-T2
 
  • #39
ok, then how do i find T1 or T2
 
  • #40
I messed you up more then I helped, sorry man. I need my notes/book/calculator and they are all in my car.. sorry to take you down the wrong track like that
 
  • #41
ok, if both lengths of rope were equal

T1=Fg/2

T2=Fg/2

they are not but this gives me an idea...
 
  • #42
ok...
 
  • #43
There are three forces acting on the person:
- Tension (T1) from left rope (acting at the angle of the rope)
- Tension (T2) from right rope (acting at the angle of the rope)
- Weight (W) acting down (which is given)

Since she's in equilibrium:
- The sum of the vertical force components must equal 0
- The sum of the horizontal force components must equal 0

That will give you two equations, which you can solve to find the two unknowns: T1 & T2.
 

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