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The discussion focuses on calculating the tensions in a rope supporting a mountain climber weighing 565 N, positioned between two cliffs. The angles of the rope with respect to the vertical are 65 degrees on the left and 80 degrees on the right. Participants conclude that the tensions can be determined using trigonometric relationships, specifically the cosine function, to resolve the vertical components of the forces acting on the climber. The final tensions calculated are T1 = 3253.7 N for the right side and T2 = 1336.9 N for the left side, although there was some confusion regarding the correct application of the equations.

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  • #31
so the triangles are on the outside of the ropes not inside... ok i understand
 
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  • #32
565 is the force upward! it is the Normal force (Fn). the sumation of all forces on her is zero (she is not falling ie. accelerating down, or up) so Fn=Fg and as you said Fg=565N=Fn
 
  • #33
right. so, cos=adj/hyp

so hyp=565/cos(65) right?
 
  • #34
so let T1 = hyp1

then cos(80)=565N/T1

let T2 = hyp2

then cos(65)=565N/T2
 
  • #35
right
I wish the pictures would work, as that would have made this so much easier, but hopefully that helped you
 
  • #36
so T1, 80*, =3253.7N

T2, 65*, =1336.9N

does this look right, seems like quite a bit of tension
 
  • #37
i tried those answers but they were incorrect.
 
  • #38
no- I think we did something wrong. T1+T2=565N so you could say

T1=565-T2
 
  • #39
ok, then how do i find T1 or T2
 
  • #40
I messed you up more then I helped, sorry man. I need my notes/book/calculator and they are all in my car.. sorry to take you down the wrong track like that
 
  • #41
ok, if both lengths of rope were equal

T1=Fg/2

T2=Fg/2

they are not but this gives me an idea...
 
  • #42
ok...
 
  • #43
There are three forces acting on the person:
- Tension (T1) from left rope (acting at the angle of the rope)
- Tension (T2) from right rope (acting at the angle of the rope)
- Weight (W) acting down (which is given)

Since she's in equilibrium:
- The sum of the vertical force components must equal 0
- The sum of the horizontal force components must equal 0

That will give you two equations, which you can solve to find the two unknowns: T1 & T2.
 

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