What adjacent keys can you find on your keyboard?

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The discussion revolves around identifying words that can be formed using adjacent keys on a keyboard, specifically focusing on the QWERTY layout. Participants explore various languages and the possibility of using diagonal movements or repeating letters.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants list words formed by adjacent keys, such as "as," "was," "saw," and "red."
  • There are questions regarding whether diagonal moves between keys are permitted, with some suggesting a coordination number of 4 or 8.
  • Participants discuss the implications of allowing repeated letters in forming words, with examples like "dress" and "dressed."
  • Some mention longer words like "redressed" and "desert," while others explore names and phrases that can be formed.
  • Several contributions include words from different languages, such as "gyt" in Norwegian and "fresas."
  • There is a playful tone with participants sharing humorous or nonsensical phrases like "Fred saw Ed" and "hyuj."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether diagonal moves are allowed or if repeating letters should be permitted. The discussion remains open with multiple competing views on these aspects.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the ambiguity of rules regarding diagonal movements and letter repetition, as well as the varying interpretations of what constitutes an adjacent key.

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can you find on your keyboard, going in any direction with adjoining keys ?
 
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Er (is)
Ert (pea)
Ty (make use of)
I (in)
På (on)
Yt (Perform!)
Ytre (means both "say" and "outer")
Tre (means both tree and three)
Re (to tidy up, particularly as in "to make the bed")
As (Roman coin)
Klø (itch)
Øl (beer)
Sa (said)
Ed (oath)
De (they)
Lo (laughed)

That's about it..
 
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as, was, saw, red, wed, ilk

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Navneeth
 
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Must the words lie as straight line segments, wolram?
 
Caps Lock
Tab
Shift
Print Screen
Scroll Lock
Pause
Break
Insert
Home
Page Up
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Delete
End
Enter
:-)
 
as
was
saw
poll
red
wed
ilk(thnx neutrino)
dew
were
 
serf

assert - if one is allowed to double strike a letter.

dress, dressed

tree, treed

free, freed, frees, freer
 
yomamma said:
as
was
saw
poll
red
wed
ilk(thnx neutrino)
dew
were
I actually thought about Poll, but wasn't sure if repeating a letter was allowed. :rolleyes:

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Navneeth
 
Polk
Pool
Loop
Plop
Poop
 
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berkeman said:
Caps Lock
Tab
Shift
Print Screen
Scroll Lock
Pause
Break
Insert
Home
Page Up
Page Down
Delete
End
Enter
:-)
You forgot Back Space. :-p

Some others that I see on my keyboard...
Wake Up
Sleep
Power

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Navneeth
 
  • #11
I found QWERTY (Qwerty) in the dictionary. :biggrin:
 
  • #12
Are diagonal moves allowed (example D to R)? I guess I'm asking if we should have a coordination number of 4 or 8?

The QWERTY keyboard isn't very well configured for this. The vowels are on the fringes of the keyboard, have low coordination numbers, UIO is clustered, and they're generally surrounded by bad letters.
 
  • #13
Astronuc said:
I found QWERTY (Qwerty) in the dictionary. :biggrin:
In that case, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVORAK" should be allowed, too, although it happens to be a name. :biggrin: Well this doesn't really apply since the letters are not arranged as DVORAK.

Speaking of names, can anyone spot a FRED in your (QWERTY) keyboard?

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luckycharms said:
Are diagonal moves allowed (example D to R)? I guess I'm asking if we should have a coordination number of 4 or 8?

The QWERTY keyboard isn't very well configured for this. The vowels are on the fringes of the keyboard, have low coordination numbers, UIO is clustered, and they're generally surrounded by bad letters.
it could be worse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Keyboard_layout_Chinese_Traditional.png
 
  • #15
Desert is the longest common word I found using only letters without standing on a letter twice in a row.
 
  • #16
neutrino said:
In that case, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVORAK" should be allowed, too, although it happens to be a name. :biggrin: Well this doesn't really apply since the letters are not arranged as DVORAK.

Speaking of names, can anyone spot a FRED in your (QWERTY) keyboard?
How about "hyuj" as in really big? :smile: Well, it's pronounced like "huge". :rolleyes:
 
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  • #17
Astronuc said:
How about "hyuj" as in really big? :smile: Well, it's pronounced like "huge". :rolleyes:
Ok. Hey...that sounds like "okay", doesn't it?
 
  • #18
How about the longest sentence?

Fred saw Ed. :smile:

or Fred sawed. :rolleyes:
 
  • #19
Astronuc said:
How about the longest sentence?

Fred saw Ed. :smile:

or Fred sawed. :rolleyes:
Hmmm...how about Fred sewed? :rolleyes:
 
  • #20
as a serf drew a sewer drew saw a serf desert
 
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  • #21
Fred saw Ed sewed red sewer dew as desert free. bad grammar
 
  • #22
Astronuc said:
Fred saw Ed sewed red sewer dew as desert free. bad grammar
Fred saw red desert as Ed sewed.

Here's one more word for the list : Swede
 
  • #23
arildno said:
Must the words lie as straight line segments, wolram?
As long as they are adjoing it matters not, so angles are ok :smile:
 
  • #24
Allright!

Sed (custom)
Ser (sees)
Seder (Cedar)
sedertre (Cedar-tree)
Der (there)
Fred (peace)
Freser (hisses)
Klo (Claw)
Løp (race)
Pøl (Pool)
 
  • #25
Allowing diagonal jumps, you have "redressed" at 9 letters.
 
  • #26
You also have
desert
dessert

In Norwegian, we also have
gyt (imperative of "gyte", which is used about fish releasing their fertilized eggs)
 
  • #27
Few more...

Redrew, Ass, Juhu - A part of Mumbai (Bombay) famous for its beach, Bhuj - The town closest to the epicentre of the 2001 earthquake in Gujarat,Polo - A sport
 
  • #28
wolram said:
can you find on your keyboard, going in any direction with adjoining keys ?


In what languages? Can I double the same key?


saw
sew
poll
red
drew
redrew
was
sawed
trees
tree
koi
lop
swede
free
freed
wed
serf

lo
tres
ser
res
fresas
sed

Thats all I got
 

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